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re: Can We Agree with Sen. Kennedy that Deporting Garcia to ES was a Screw Up?

Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:14 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:14 pm to
Just to show how wrong you are about my position on illegal immigrants, here's something I posted in my thread about Rachel Morin:


Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:15 pm to
No one cares about an ILLEGAL ALIEN who had six years to self deport. He is in his HOME COUNTRY which is sovereign in this matter and now has responsibility for their own citizen.

I only care about US citizens.

Stop wasting our time with your pearl clutching.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:36 pm to
Here is all of your faux angst.

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:58 pm to
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Stop wasting our time with your pearl clutching


I'm not clutching pearls. I just got tired of your lying.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 10:59 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:00 pm to
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Here is all of your faux angst


What does that have to do with me? I've already shown what I think of Van Hollen.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 5:45 am to
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I've already shown what I think of Van Hollen.
And yet you start a post about the current issue he is focused on. Just shut up.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:04 am to
I thought some people would see things differently because of the way an intelligent, pro-Trump Senator described the situation.

Obviously you aren't one of those people. Why is that a big deal? After this exchange, I genuinely think you can't reason.

I will shut up if you answer somethings for me:
Has anyone in the 2nd Trump Administration made a mistake? Did I ignore Rachel Morin's murder?
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 6:18 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:24 am to
You are a prattling on about nonsensical drivel. Focusing on the minor while missing the major issues. Another pearl clutching, hand wringing ninnie. There is nothing to reason about. He was ordered deported twice. The only issue to be resolved is what country he would be sent to. This is now a moot point. He is in his home country. They have jurisdiction over the matter.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:29 am to
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Really just curious if people really can't see the difference between "you can't deport him" and "you can't legally deport him to El Salvador because there is a valid order prohibiting his deportation to El Salvador."

Your problem is you think people on here are stupid, and "can't see the difference" instead of people "not caring about the difference".

We don't agree that illegals are due the same rights as Citizens/legals. So no, we literally don't gaf what happened here. It was a stupid court order in the first place. If courts/judicial branch doesn't respect the Executive Branch, then they can't cry when they get the same respect back.

The only thing I hate about this story is that these people will end up suing, and getting taxpayer money from it. And that's because we have idiotic Americans that cry over crap like this, while not caring about real Americans.
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:33 am to
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I thought some people would see things differently because of the way an intelligent, pro-Trump Senator described the situation

We aren't clapping seals. We can disagree. Kennedy isn't reading the room right, if he thinks he is going to change minds on the Right with this opinion. He brings nothing new that hasn't been discussed and assessed. He can have his opinion, but doesn't mean we have to agree.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:39 am to
Clearly, you aren't able to reason. I apologize for responding to you as if you could. You literally can't see when you made a mistake.

I feel a bit guilty trying to reason with you. Thar must have really frightened you. I won't make that mistake again.

Sorry if I upset you. The exchange was useful for me. In the real world, I have encountered only two people who were incapable of seeing their own mistakes. It shouldn't surprise me that such people inhabit the PoliBoard.

Take care. As a Christian, I am genuinely sorry for pushing this with you. I was too fascinated with the way you think. I should focus more on correcting my own faults.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:40 am to
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Can We Agree with Sen. Kennedy that Deporting Garcia to ES was a Screw Up?
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Why?
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To ground in reality discussions about what should be done to successfully and quickly deport MILLIONS of illegal aliens.
In a normal environment, I'd agree 100%.

However, this environment is not normal. In today's world, apologies from anyone but the extreme left are regarded as nothing but admissions. Those admissions then invite a push for the worst punishment or retaliation conjurable. Given those circumstances, there is not only zero incentive to admit error or apologize (no difference), there is significant disincentive.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:47 am to

This thread was an attempt to understand whether it was stupidity or dishonesty or something else that caused people to say that the deportation to El Salvador was not illegal.

I completely understand, respect, and agree with the statement: "Yes, I agree that the deportation of Abrego Garcia to El Salvador was illegal because of the withholding order, but I don't care that it was illegal."
This post was edited on 4/23/25 at 6:49 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:53 am to
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In a normal environment, I'd agree 100%.

However, this environment is not normal. In today's world, apologies from anyone but the extreme left are regarded as nothing but admissions. Those admissions then invite a push for the worst punishment or retaliation conjurable. Given those circumstances, there is not only zero incentive to admit error or apologize (no difference), there is significant disincentive.


You're probably right. That's exactly what Senator Kennedy said. I just thought that, among 85% pro-Trump PoliBoarders, we could agree on the truth.

Thank you for taking the time to consider the question.

Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 6:56 am to
Your pathetic attempts to “reason” have led to this thread being anchored.

Consider that.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:03 am to
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We aren't clapping seals. We can disagree. Kennedy isn't reading the room right, if he thinks he is going to change minds on the Right with this opinion.


Did you listen to Kennedy's full remarks? He said, "Of course it was a mistake, but the Trump Administration can't admit to mistakes, because the Leftists would never let them hear the end of it."

Neither I nor Kennedy were trying to change people's minds. I just thought on a mostly pro-Trump forum we could admit the truth...NOT THAT IT MATTERS IN THE GRAND SCHEME of things, I was just trying to reconcile why so many people were claiming that the deportation to El Salvador wasn't a mistake.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:08 am to
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Your pathetic attempts to “reason” have led to this thread being anchored.

Consider that.


Why would that bother me? Not my Board. Not my decision. I appreciate the moderators.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:09 am to
A reflection of your tremendously superior reasoning skills.

Congrats.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
10132 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:22 am to
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A reflection of your tremendously superior reasoning skills.

Congrats.


You accused me of ignoring Rachel Morin's murder. Then, I showed you evidence of me starting a thread on this very Board related to her horrible murder. Despite that, you didn't retract your statement or apologize.

You are either intellectually dishonest or brain-damaged. It doesn't matter to me. I feel sorry for you.

Trying to reason with you is like trying to teach a dog algebra.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127393 posts
Posted on 4/23/25 at 7:37 am to
You weight your efforts toward the inane. The more relevant issue is the murder of a US citizen. You would rather discuss the disposition of an illegal alien. Sorry if simple logic eludes you. Not going to apologize for pointing out the obvious.
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