re: Can someone tell me the legitimate list of what SHOULD have been done re: CV19?

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The CDC should be issuing clear concise guidelines for administration of public services, it did not and it is not

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well i have been critical of the CDC for its failures, but the problem is nobody has a plan for how to deal with this other than "shut down and pray for vaccine". the problem is there IS NO PLAN if a vaccine doesn't come other than "shite, we shouldn't have shut anything down"

Quarantine Old Folks (NOT send infected people into the most vulnerable population, Cuomo you dumb arse), otherwise, tell people to be hygienic, understand there is a dangerous disease spreading and take appropriate action if needed.

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a year is too much and right now we're basically at about "a year" (b/c a vaccine would take 6+ months to work across the country). it's just not realistic and would be super expensive.

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I'd argue the long-term cost is going to be much greater than a UBI system with a complete lockdown. Regardless, there should not have been a complete lockdown, and people lost jobs not due to anything they did, but simply because the government approached the problem, at the recommendation of health professionals, as a one size fits all solution. If they were going that route, then the one size fits all solution would be best implemented with UBI.

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if Europe extends their programs and a a vaccine isn't around VERY shortly, they have completely fricked themselves long term

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I think lots of democracies are going to be fricked. Because of the population sizes at play, this decade is going to be full of unrest everywhere, at scales that we've never seen before. Very few countries are going to come out of this in a stronger position, in geopolitical terms.

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we're going to have a much larger portion of our population exposed to the virus, which is the only way we can somewhat combat other than a vaccine.

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Unfortunately that's true, and maybe people will finally realize how unhealthy our population is. Nothing can be done about that, except maybe teach people about metabolism more in depth, as calorie in = calorie out is a matter of thermodynamics, but the body does not handle all metabolites the same way.

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even distribution geographically?

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I'm not sure what you are asking here, but we don't have an even distribution of population geographically, hence why a complete lockdown was nonsensical. I'm guessing the virus will eventually have a 100% geographical distribution only after a vaccine, as there are most probably pockets of people unexposed to the virus. Regardless, that the Ro data indicates we need at the minimum 60% of people to achieve herd immunity, it is going to take a lot of time for that to occur.

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The only EXTREME measures that I think would have made a difference, but I'm not sure were palatable to our country -- Complete lockdown of our borders.

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Vietnam shut down everything before they had 1 recorded case because they don't trust China.

Not many Americans would have been okay with Trump shutting the country down before we had a single recorded case. The Dems would still be calling him Hitler and he probably loses a lot of votes from people that did vote for him.

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the biggest thing we needed was Trump to be on board with this virus. His leadership has been horrible. He has spread so much doubt that has hurt the flow of correct information.

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Trump doesn't control the media. They just say the opposite of what he says.

New York literally said we aren't listening to Trump and ended up with 1/3 of the entire countries cases.

You had Pelosi saying to go to fricking China Town, The demokkkrats were the ones saying it wasn't a big deal at first.

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Trump to be on board with this virus

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Worthless platitudes for $1000 Alex

He is the president what he says matters. What he tweets matters and he has been wildly incosistant on covid information. The media is a damn dumpster fire but the president shouldn't be one just because of the media.

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Can someone tell me the legitimate list of what SHOULD have been done re: CV19?

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1)Nothing


2)Nothing

3)Nothing

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without a vaccine?

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Even with a vaccine. The civil unrest this is going to unleash is going to be something severe, and will take upwards of a decade to fully play out. The geopolitics of the post-COVID world are extremely fricked. There are a multiplicity of crises pretty much everywhere, and no one has even begun to address them.

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the biggest thing we needed was Trump to be on board with this virus. His leadership has been horrible. He has spread so much doubt that has hurt the flow of correct information.

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There is no "correct" information. Nobody knows enough about it. There still isn't even a reliable test for it. This isn't an episode of House where the big medical mystery is solved in 42 minutes between commercial breaks, this is the real world.