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Can CDC use no eviction executive order to mandate vaccinations

Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:24 am
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58024 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:24 am
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Prior to last September, when the CDC first ordered landlords to continue housing tenants who claim they cannot afford to pay their rent, that gloss would have been uncontroversial. But the eviction moratorium, which the CDC recently extended until the end of July, is based on a reading of the Public Health Service Act that could easily encompass a vaccine mandate. That law authorizes the secretary of health and human services to "make and enforce such regulations as in his judgment are necessary" to prevent the interstate spread of "communicable diseases." A regulation delegates that authority to the CDC, which argues that it justifies overriding rental contracts across the country, because evicted tenants might become homeless or move in with other people, thereby increasing the risk of virus transmission. The Biden administration has endorsed that position while defending the moratorium against challenges by landlords and property managers. Congress granted the Secretary the 'broad authority to make and enforce' any regulations that 'in his judgment are necessary to prevent the spread of disease' across states or from foreign countries." If the indirect and disputed relationship between evictions and COVID-19 transmission was enough to justify the CDC's moratorium, the direct and indisputable relationship between inoculation and disease control surely would be enough to justify a CDC order requiring vaccination. The plaintiffs in the case that Friedrich heard, Alabama Association of Realtors v. HHS, made that point when they asked the Supreme Court to lift a stay on her order blocking enforcement of the eviction moratorium. The CDC, they noted, believes the Public Health Service Act "bestowed upon it the unqualified power to take any measure imaginable to stop the spread of communicable disease—whether eviction moratoria, worship limits, nationwide lockdowns, school closures, or vaccine mandates." In its response, the Biden administration said the Court "need not consider whether [the statute] would authorize" measures "such as 'vaccine mandates.'" But given the vast authority claimed by the CDC, that possibility is completely plausible and definitely worth considering.


Is there anyone alive who thinks the Federal government can’t enforce anything they choose under the banner of public health?!
This post was edited on 7/10/21 at 11:11 am
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140479 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:25 am to
Popeyes and church’s chicken have to be nervous.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98824 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:29 am to
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Is there anyone alive who thinks the Federal government can’t enforce anything they choose under the banner of public health?!


Well, if Kavanaugh is to be believed in his concurrence, there appears to be a limit.

That said, they will try every means and measure to accumulate, hold and exercise power.
Posted by beauxgy
LA
Member since Feb 2007
3464 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:30 am to
Why aren't the invaders at our southern border being forced to do this?
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71455 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:30 am to
CDC, state public health departments and county/parish health departments have got incredible power the last year and half.
Posted by ldts
Member since Aug 2015
2677 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:56 am to
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CDC, state public health departments and county/parish health departments have got incredible power the last year and half.


Yes they have. I fully expect they'll turn that power against second amendment rights as a "public health problem" at some point in the not so distant future.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
6201 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 10:57 am to
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CDC, state public health departments and county/parish health departments have got incredible power the last year and half.


Yes they did, and they do not want to give it up.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58024 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:12 am to
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Why aren't the invaders at our southern border being forced to do this?


For the same reason the BLM and Antifa rioters are rarely prosecuted.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58024 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:14 am to
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Yes they have. I fully expect they'll turn that power against second amendment rights as a "public health problem" at some point in the not so distant future.


There was an article a while back where local police where using mental health as an excuse to remove guns. All that was necessary was a spouse or ex-spouse to tell cops she was worried her husband was depressed or suicidal.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:20 am to
Would not recommend they try it. Going to frick around and find out.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16574 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:31 am to
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I fully expect they'll turn that power against second amendment rights as a "public health problem" at some point in the not so distant future.


That's been in progress for decades, since the early 1990's CDC/DOJ-funded ad campaigns that used the same tactics as anti-tobacco and drug campaigns. There is absolutely nothing new in gun-control, it's the same tactics and rehashed rhetoric that's been used since the 1960's. The faces have changed, the media has changed, not the goals and distortions.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15722 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:31 am to
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But the eviction moratorium, which the CDC recently extended until the end of July, is based on a reading of the Public Health Service Act that could easily encompass a vaccine mandate.


A government big enough to give you everything you want can give you more than you asked for.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11449 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:34 am to
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Would not recommend they try it. Going to frick around and find out.


This. When millions of gun owners eventually have all their rights taken, they have nothing to lose, it gonna get wild.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:36 am to
Kyle Rittenhouse was young and ill prepared.

And he wreaked havoc.

/discussion
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:38 am to
From the meme thread…

Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58024 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57263 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 12:27 pm to
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Can CDC use no eviction executive order to mandate vaccination
Who is going to stop them?
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 7/10/21 at 2:03 pm to
Any power exercised by public health must be preceded by an official declaration of a public health emergency.

Public Health Emergency

The declaration lasts for 90 days but can be extended. The current extension lasts through July 15, 2021. LINK
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