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re: Can a liberal democrat explain this logic to me

Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:10 am to
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:10 am to
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Goodness I can go on and on...



And you usually do.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8800 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:12 am to
It's not a deflection; Ralph gave an honest and insightful answer. Democrats don't care if their policies are logical because they perceive that Republicans are just stupid. The stance is, even though we know we are hypocrites, at least we aren't idiots.

Unfortunately, there is so much wrong with this argument that it is definitive proof of this individual being both.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 10:13 am
Posted by pilgrim
Member since Dec 2013
31 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:12 am to
Gun ownership hinders them from taking over with force; fair voting hinders them from taking over with politics.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
31765 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:15 am to



You are one truly fricked up in the cabeza Commie.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77791 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:18 am to
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There is no logic to it but you miss the point. It doesn't matter in so many ways. You conservatives pride yourself on logic and logical arguments and yet when you argument against same-sex marriage your arguments are based on the bible or religion or what is natural or history lol.


Which has nothing to do with guns or voting, I guess that's liberal logic for you. I guess you couldn't shoe horn Phil and racism into this idiocy.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77791 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:18 am to
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Exercising your right to vote doesn't result in a schoolyard full of dead children, that's why.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
36952 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:28 am to
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but it is completely NOT OK for municipalities or states to require a photo ID for voting


Wrong. Many states DO require photo ID for voting.

LINK
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10855 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:35 am to
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Why is it OK for a municipality or state to force gun owners to pay to have to register their firearms and such just so they can exercise their 2nd amendment right,

but it is completely NOT OK for municipalities or states to require a photo ID for voting because it apparently forces "people to have to pay to exercise their right to vote"?


Well the 2nd amendment states that gun ownership is allowable in a well regulated militia. So you need to know who owns guns when you call out the militia and you need to know who owns arms in order to have a good estimate of the size of your militia. That makes sense. You cannot have a well regulated militia without knowing who owns guns and what type of guns. I mean a .22 short isn't as good in a militia as an AR-15 or AK-47. It's important for the state to know who owns what type of guns for when they are called into the militia.

Voting is a fundamental right upon which all other rights are based upon. That needs to be the least restrictive right for people to exercise. Plus for centuries people voted without photo ID in this country. Ronald Reagan was elected without voter IDs and I don't see how his rights as a candidate were violated because people did not have voter ID laws.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 10:36 am
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33597 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:38 am to
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There is no logic to it but you miss the point. It doesn't matter in so many ways. You conservatives pride yourself on logic and logical arguments and yet when you argument against same-sex marriage your arguments are based on the bible or religion or what is natural or history lol.


a fitting response for:

and the post below it also contains the level of rationality one would expect from the resident delusional trolls:

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Exercising your right to vote doesn't result in a schoolyard full of dead children, that's why.




applause.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77791 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:39 am to
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So you need to know who owns guns when you call out the militia and you need to know who owns arms in order to have a good estimate of the size of your militia. That makes sense.


How did they do it a couple of hundred years ago, if, you know this was what they wanted to do?
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18076 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:41 am to
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Exercising your right to vote doesn't result in a schoolyard full of dead children, that's why.


It can. Depends on who is elected. Electing Dems has destroyed the Black family - how many have died?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10855 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:41 am to
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How did they do it a couple of hundred years ago, if, you know this was what they wanted to do?


Check the records of the Continental Army and the records of colonial militias from the French and Indian War. When people joined the militia a record was kept of what or any weapons they brought with them.

Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
77791 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:47 am to
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When people joined the militia a record was kept of what or any weapons they brought with them.
What else was a requirement to be in this militia?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:48 am to
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Check the records of the Continental Army and the records of colonial militias from the French and Indian War. When people joined the militia a record was kept of what or any weapons they brought with them.




I would honestly like to see that link. TIA
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
60940 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:54 am to
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conservatives pride yourself on logic and logical arguments and yet when you argument against same-sex marriage your arguments are based on the bible or religion or what is natural or history lol.




You are making an assumption, a wrong one I might add, that the doctrines from the bible are contradictory to logic?
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 10:55 am
Posted by Ton Chou
On the Levee
Member since Feb 2010
757 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:57 am to
See Hitler genius. Not only did excercising the right to vote result in millions of dead children, the removal of gun ownership left the citizenry defenseless.
This post was edited on 1/4/14 at 11:00 am
Posted by Strannix
President Trump's America
Member since Dec 2012
51257 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:59 am to
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Exercising your right to vote doesn't result in a schoolyard full of dead children, that's why.

Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10855 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 10:59 am to
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You are making an assumption, a wrong one I might add, that the doctrines from the bible are contradictory to logic?


Doctrines from the bible are not all contrary to logic but they were based on a time when people had limited information. For example there was a time when people didn't understand that you get sick from eating food contaminated with certain bacteria and shellfish and clams and oysters often had that bacteria. It's pretty clear in the bible that you are allowed to only eat fish with scales.

But billions of Christians eat clams, oysters and shrimp because we understand about bacteria and how proper handling of food makes it safer.

Sure the logic of not eating clams was true about 4 thousand years ago but now not so much.

Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:03 am to
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Why is it OK for a municipality or state to force gun owners to pay to have to register their firearms and such just so they can exercise their 2nd amendment right,

but it is completely NOT OK for municipalities or states to require a photo ID for voting because it apparently forces "people to have to pay to exercise their right to vote"?
Most liberals are fine with requiring photo IDs in places that provide free photo IDs. I'm in favor of free firearm registration, too.

Oh, and abortions and bestiality and the NSA and electing Obama emperor.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47591 posts
Posted on 1/4/14 at 11:10 am to
Whats logical about a liberal?

There isn't. They are the scum of the fricking earth.
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