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California Supreme Court blocks proposal to split state in 3 from November ballot
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:44 pm
Looks like it's a no go folks. Well hell.
Just out on FOX:
Just out on FOX:
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The California Supreme Court on Wednesday blocked a proposal that would split the state into three from the November ballot.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.
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Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:46 pm to Homesick Tiger
South Carolina didn't need permission.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:49 pm to Homesick Tiger
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Looks like it's a no go folks. Well hell.
Looks like another Supreme Court reversal of the California Clown College.. i mean Judicial system.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:49 pm to Homesick Tiger
They still haven't released the opinion. As I understand it, the only opposition filed was from an environmental group who claimed it would just be too damn hard to split up the state.
I am trying to find the briefs now to sort it out.
Hopefully, I can make some sense of this today.
I am trying to find the briefs now to sort it out.
Hopefully, I can make some sense of this today.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:52 pm to FalseProphet
They met the threshold per their constitution to get it on the ballot.
This getting over turned.
This getting over turned.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:54 pm to Homesick Tiger
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California Supreme Court blocks proposal to split state in 3 from November ballot
Posted on 7/18/18 at 3:59 pm to bamarep
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This getting over turned.
By who? The California Supreme Court just blocked it. There's no real way this case has an avenue to the USSC.
California gonna california.
Here is the brief filed by the environmental group.
Here is the brief filed by the proponent of the initiative (pro se).
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:01 pm to bamarep
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They met the threshold per their constitution to get it on the ballot.
Not if the supremes say no, state issue. I'm pretty interested in their reasoning.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:05 pm to Homesick Tiger
Not like it would've ever happened anyway. Even if the citizens of California approved, it would still need congressional approval that is subject to presidential veto.
No way in hell Republicans would let it happen in this form because all 3 would be majority Democrat states.
No way in hell Republicans would let it happen in this form because all 3 would be majority Democrat states.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:39 pm to Homesick Tiger
good all this was about is so they get 4 new senate seats for california and then they can take control of the senate by using the courts instead of the ballot box.
long ago they realized the courts were their way to get and maintain power, thats all this was, a way to add 4 new liberal senate seats for california.
the number of house seats wouldnt change because they are based on population size, but the congressional rules state that each "state" gets 2 senate seats. if california becomes three states then instead of having just 2 senate seats they get 6 senate seats out of this.
long ago they realized the courts were their way to get and maintain power, thats all this was, a way to add 4 new liberal senate seats for california.
the number of house seats wouldnt change because they are based on population size, but the congressional rules state that each "state" gets 2 senate seats. if california becomes three states then instead of having just 2 senate seats they get 6 senate seats out of this.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:46 pm to AnonymousTiger
Outside the coast and Sacramento, the rest of CA is pretty red
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:49 pm to AnonymousTiger
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No way in hell Republicans would let it happen in this form because all 3 would be majority Democrat states.
Not necessarily.
Plus isnt the electoral college based on overall population to begin with? They would be chopping their electoral votes into a third
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:51 pm to FalseProphet
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As I understand it, the only opposition filed was from an environmental group who claimed it would just be too damn hard to split up the state.
Like, with a knife?
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:52 pm to Sultan of Swing
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Outside the coast and Sacramento, the rest of CA is pretty red
Outside of the population centers, those other 3 dudes vote Republican? Really?
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:55 pm to HailToTheChiz
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They would be chopping their electoral votes into a third
They have 55 presently I think. I keep hearing about northern Cal being republican laden. Would be achievable to pick up that "state".
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:56 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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Outside of the population centers, those other 3 dudes vote Republican? Really?
About 6.5 million people live in the Central Valley today, and it is the fastest growing region in California.
Bay Area has 7 million.
So it's not like that red region is so outdistanced apart from L.A.
It's the combination of L.A. and S.F. and make the State overwhelmingly Blue.
You split up S.F. and L.A. and it's a not a landslide in all elections.
This post was edited on 7/18/18 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:56 pm to Homesick Tiger
Most folks felt it would create two deep blue states and one swing.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:57 pm to Homesick Tiger
Good. There a better chance than we want admit that 3 Californias would put more Dems in Congress and the senate.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:58 pm to VoxDawg
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Most folks felt it would create two deep blue states and one swing.
That's better than one big deep blue with no swing. I'd take it.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 4:59 pm to memphis tiger
It would do exactly that but they stopped it. You can't make this shite up. The Dems never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
It's really remarkable when you think about it.
It's really remarkable when you think about it.
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