re: California bans most law enforcement including ICE from wearing masks

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I assume if they are covering their faces they are also not wearing name tags. So how would one know who they are dealing with?

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Do you know the amount of paperwork required after an arrest?

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Or if they were even legit law enforcement?

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This is a legit concern. However. Do you think someone seeing their face and a name badge would change the knowledge of the legitimacy to the suspect?

Also…there aren’t ICE agents running out there all by themselves…there is a presence.

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I assume if they are covering their faces they are also not wearing name tags. So how would one know who they are dealing with? Or if they were even legit law enforcement?

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I also do not trust our FBI and some federal law enforcement agencies. I’m with you on that. We can have that debate. Gavin Newsome doesn’t make policy for federal law enforcement agencies.

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Can protestors legally detain or shoot other people?

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So please let us know your name so we can doxx you.

Fair enough. We are likely close in age. I just don’t know what not having masks changes…except in this era of social media allowing the crazies to put law enforcement and their family in danger.

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except in this era of social media allowing the crazies to put law enforcement and their family in danger.

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Have there been provable instances of this happening, or is this an assumption that we are all making?

I’m not trolling. I am trying to think critically about the topic.

And if I sounded aggressive earlier in the thread it is because I wish everyone would think critically at least once about every topic.

But, I will admit to being very skeptical that if Obama has started doing this in his term that the people who are okay with this now would have been okay with it then.

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Can protestors legally detain or shoot other people?

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No, they just illegally detain and shoot people.

Not quite the gotcha you were attempting.....

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Incidence of law enforcement being doxxed
The incidence of law enforcement officers being doxxed has been a growing concern, with recent incidents highlighting the risks associated with such actions. Doxxing involves the non-consensual publication of personal information intended to intimidate or target an individual, and it poses serious risks to the safety and well-being of law enforcement personnel.
Recent doxxing incidents have targeted federal law enforcement agents, with personal information posted online as part of a larger attack against law enforcement. These incidents have been associated with groups like Antifa and the Islamic State (ISIS), and have led to significant threats to the safety of law enforcement officers and their families.
Law enforcement agencies have taken measures to protect officers by concealing name tags and using alternative forms of identification, but this has also led to legal action from groups like the National Lawyers Guild. The doxxing of public servants puts them, and democracy, at risk, as it threatens the integrity of public service and the safety of individuals who serve the public.

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Another good article.
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than a local peace officer interacting with local citizens

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I bet this situation is even more dangerous than the threats that ICE is facing.

My gut tells me that given enough time I could make the argument that local LEO’s need more protection than the Feds.

But this is all a hunch, so I could be wrong.

And I don’t trust local guys either

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I say they should say frick the commie government and wear them if they want,

Who's gonna stop them?

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Well obviously the California police, so known for their tough on crime approach, would make walking up to these armed badass ICE agents their top priority.

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In most cases the information posted online includes home addresses, obviously putting law enforcement and military personnel, and their families, at great risk.

The latest example happened in Portland in which dozens of federal law enforcement agents had their personal information posted online.

Portland is hardly an isolated incident. The Department of Homeland Security reports that police in Kentucky, Washington, D.C., Atlanta, Boston and New York City had been doxxed. Several police officers in Chicago also became doxxing victims in June.

The primary suspect for these doxxing events is Antifa. It has been reported that at violent Antifa protests in Portland, communist insurgents have read law enforcement officers’ personal information aloud over megaphones.