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re: But tariffs don’t work….
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:34 pm to Bass Tiger
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:34 pm to Bass Tiger
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More MMT nonsense .
The opposite. Thomas Sowell
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:34 pm to Warboo
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It does unless you are sporting a 37 trillion debt. You are smarter than this.
The trade deficit and federal debt are not directly related.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:When you have the strongest currency on the planet, if you *don't* have a trade deficit... you're doing it wrong.
We literally got into this last night. Trade deficits mean jack shite.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:35 pm to BuckyCheese
Notice how he ignored your point?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"Globalism" doesn't even have a definition
And yet you argue it.
The comical thing is, I read you quote from whoever, since you can't form your own argument apparently, and his position ignores something very important.
As do you.
Let's see if you can figure it out counselor.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:36 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Well, why not just go around breaking windows at all the stores? Then we could employ lots of people to replace the windows, and they could buy stuff from the stores that had the broken windows! We'll all be rich!
What if we understand it to mean any cost increase will be more than offset by jobs and wage growth which lessens the tax burden.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:37 pm to Jjdoc
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Notice how he ignored your point?
Totally expected.
I usually avoid discussing much of anything with him as beating ones head against a wall is more enjoyable.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:37 pm to Warboo
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You realize when you call out for SFP he’s going to oblige you with the very thing you don’t want, right?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Globalism" doesn't even have a definition
a national policy of treating the whole world as a proper sphere for political influence
You were saying…
ETA: any normal person who thinks logically would never hire someone so ignorant as an attorney. Delusions of grandeur in full effect.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:37 pm to FlexDawg
I’d encourage everyone to listen to the Lighthizer interview with Tucker Carlson from last week. I’m fine with tariffs as they are Constitutional and Income Taxes are not. However, the level of control they are seeking with these tariffs is just short of centralized control. Given the complexities, I’m not sure they could ever make it work.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:38 pm to Jjdoc
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your USA hating rhetoric that tariffs equals Marxism and the USA founders were Marxists.
Strawman argument. Someone attempted this same stupidity last night.
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Your form of trade is globalization.
Globalization is a nonsense word with no definition.
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. It's a redistribution of wealth.
Via private actors/decisions.
Not public actors/decisions like you want
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Those towns and cities were once flourishing. T
They did not adapt.
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That money left and went to China to make them wealthy.
No it made people in California and New York wealthy because it allowed them more capital to make better decisions (and reap the exponential rewards).
That's capitalism.
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Just a fricking idiot! That's all you are.
I'm making the exact same arguments used in the past by (now) Trump supporters on here about black people, when black people bitched about institutional boogeymen (this is the globalism one for MAGA) while ignoring the bad decisions that put them in an economic hole (the stuff that MAGA was OK with saying for black people but melts like you are right now when we discuss it with white people).
I apply it all all people, regardless of race, ethnicity, age, economic status, etc. That's intellectual consistency.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:39 pm to Jjdoc
quote:Increaseing the cost of living will definately help them out.
Tell that to families working 3 or 4 jobs to survive.
quote:Definately the result of cheap underwear.
high crime rates and drug infested streets.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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"Globalism" doesn't even have a definition
Like lawfare?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:39 pm to Cito2point0
quote:New factories mean more, high paying jobs. I guess that part of the equation is lost on you. Car plants steel mills, and even Apple is bring manufacturing jobs to the USA. shite-ton of very good paying jobs along with great benefits. Yet the thing you focus on is sarcasm about cheaper luxury cars and more expensive, imported food.
Huge win for the middle class….we can get cheaper Rolls but more expensive imported food. Winning
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:39 pm to Jjdoc
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Notice how he ignored your point?
He took it too literally.
Notice how you keep ignoring Sowell?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yes and no. A lot of the funding coming in (especially the UAE/Nvidia etc) is going to drive even more demand for skills the labor force already has a shortage of.
Its a mismatch of labor to training. We have a frickload of people who spent 4 years getting a degree to work generic white collar jobs that simply do not exist in the numbers for them to fill it.
We dont need more HR, we dont need more marketers, we dont need more sales, account managers and so on. We dont even need as many developers as we did just a couple of years ago thanks to tools like AI assist tools like Cursor which make top performers much more productive.
Those are not people who can reasonably re-skill to where the job demand is. They can however re skill to do factory work
Its a mismatch of labor to training. We have a frickload of people who spent 4 years getting a degree to work generic white collar jobs that simply do not exist in the numbers for them to fill it.
We dont need more HR, we dont need more marketers, we dont need more sales, account managers and so on. We dont even need as many developers as we did just a couple of years ago thanks to tools like AI assist tools like Cursor which make top performers much more productive.
Those are not people who can reasonably re-skill to where the job demand is. They can however re skill to do factory work
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Notice how you keep ignoring Sowell?
Whataboutism in full effect…
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:40 pm to BuckyCheese
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And yet you argue it.
Not directly.
I responded to posts about tariffs, government-backed redistribution plans, trade deficits, etc. , not "globalism"
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I read you quote from whoever, since you can't form your own argument apparently, and his position ignores something very important.
As do you.
Let's see if you can figure it out counselor.
I'm only posting curated portions of the argument since we literally had this same discussion last night.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:41 pm to BuckyCheese
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Somalia
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Gambia
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Sierra Leone
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Haiti
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Burundi
"Australia and the UK don't have gun crime!"
Posted on 3/24/25 at 7:41 pm to TDTOM
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Like lawfare?
Correct, as well as infrastructure
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