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re: Burn it all down! County secession is key.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:49 pm to DefensorFortis
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:49 pm to DefensorFortis
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constantly vacillates and was the governor that set up Nazi style checkpoints at the Florida border turning Louisiana folks around.
And,,, the idiot jumps the shark
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:50 pm to DefensorFortis
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Again, county sheriffs are key in this…the vast majority are in 2nd Amendment sanctuaries and will resist a rogue state/federal government.
Are you fricking braindead?
Posted on 9/12/23 at 8:52 pm to momentoftruth87
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Florida is still wearing masks when I was down there last month, it’s not as red as you guys claim. D
Welcome to top of the retard list.
I see about one mask about one time a month in a Publix from someone ignorant and I am in liberal Orlando. Have seen zero in Tampa and st Pete
St Pete and Orlando and Jacksonville and Tallahassee are liberal. But their numbers are not like other big cities.
Just go away
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:09 pm to SloaneRanger
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All I know is that when Trump was shitting the bed on Covid, DeSantis was leading and calling BS on on the madness.
a crude but accurate description
Posted on 9/12/23 at 9:13 pm to Indefatigable
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Approval from Congress and the State involved are required. Good luck with that.
Actually, it’s not. We didn’t need approval to secede from Britain when 75% of the population said we did.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:19 pm to LSU2ALA
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It’s exactly how it happened. It came during the Civil War. Virginia and the other southern states were in active rebellion and not allowed to vote
Not according to Lincoln or the Supreme Court.
They either seceded and were not part of the USA (and therefore, not entitled to voted/be counted for purposes of legislation) or they were always states and members of the Union.
Lincoln and the Supremes said the latter.
As noted, there's nothing in the Constitution that says a state loses its rights and representation because of "rebellion."
Ergo, WVa is illegal, as are a number of other laws passed during the Civil War.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:20 pm to DefensorFortis
I had no idea that life was so miserable for some of you.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:29 pm to DefensorFortis
In addition to being difficult to do, county secession would come with a complete loss of Federal funding.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:41 pm to DefensorFortis
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but he constantly vacillates and was the governor that set up Nazi style checkpoints at the Florida border turning Louisiana folks around.
He’s the governor of Florida, mensa. It’s not much different than a president restricting entry from other countries.
Posted on 9/12/23 at 10:49 pm to DefensorFortis
if you aren’t ready to pick up a rifle and stand post, shut the frick up. I’m so tired of pseudo civil war bullshite from drunk blowhards who are either
A) fat old fricks with no children
B) fat old fricks willing to throw American boys into the meat grinder, for what exactly?
A) fat old fricks with no children
B) fat old fricks willing to throw American boys into the meat grinder, for what exactly?
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:14 am to WinnPtiger
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if you aren’t ready to pick up a rifle and stand post, shut the frick up. I’m so tired of pseudo civil war bull shite from drunk blowhards who are either A) fat old fricks with no children B) fat old fricks willing to throw American boys into the meat grinder, for what exactly?
You’re obviously intellectually stunted…what part of my post makes you have reason to question my dedication to the cause of liberty???
I’m a combat veteran of OIF and OEF…served to protect and defend the Constitution for over 20 years…
Not a “fat old frick” nor do I drink nor am I willing to throw anyone into the grinder. I led alot better men than your ungrateful, overdramatic clownery…
I lost men in wars we had no business fighting and I have to live with that every day…to know that I bought into all the lies of WMDs and “fighting terror”…i carry that daily.
So instead of
flippantly questioning my valor and/or level of fitness/inebriation, how about you just shut your ungrateful piehole.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:24 am to DefensorFortis
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Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:40 am to DefensorFortis
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You’re obviously intellectually stunted…what part of my post makes you have reason to question my dedication to the cause of liberty???
I’m a combat veteran of OIF and OEF…served to protect and defend the Constitution for over 20 years…
You swore an oath to a constitution you're suggesting folks piss on? Apparently an oath doesn't mean much to you, son.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 7:49 am to momentoftruth87
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This was a majority of the state.
Nope.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:14 am to tango029
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You swore an oath to a constitution you're suggesting folks piss on? Apparently an oath doesn't mean much to you, son.
First of all, unless you’re in your 70s, no chance I’m your “son”.
Second of all, my oath was this:
“ I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God”
Break it down:
“Against all enemies”: That means to defend against those who are enemies of the liberty guaranteed under the Constitution to FREE people created by GOD. Foreign and DOMESTIC!!!
That means nation-states and
Who is our foreign enemy attacking us and our way of life? Our freedoms and liberties and rights to be secure in our property and lives as guaranteed by the Constitution are under attack from WITHIN!
Furthermore, it says I will obey the orders of the President and officers over me in accordance with UCMJ.
That oath is not to obey all orders. It is to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”
Rule 916(d) of the Manual for Courts Martial says:
“It is a defense to any offense that the accused was acting pursuant to orders unless the accused knew the orders to be unlawful or a person of ordinary sense and understanding would have known the orders to be unlawful.
The President and his ilk are issuing unlawful, immoral and unethical orders on a daily basis.
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Thomas Jefferson, and all those who agree with and find inspiration in the Declaration of Independence, support secession. There is no denying that the Declaration was a statement of secession “When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another…”. Thomas Jefferson stayed true to this point when writing in the Kentucky Resolution (1798) that “the several states who formed that instrument (the U.S. Constitution), being sovereign and independent, have the unquestionable right to judge of its infraction…” Secession is an inherent right in governing bodies and the states themselves ought to have sovereignty over the decision to secede.
So with all that said…Liberty and Justice for All.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:31 am to DefensorFortis
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Maybe you lose your job, or Johnny can’t be on travel ball because Dad and Mom have to stand for liberty and the right to self-determination.
Being able to provide for ones family and not make their children orphans is more than most normal folks are willing to sacrifice especially when their lives arent really being interrupted all that much by what's happening politically in this country. Curious...do you have young children?
Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:33 am to DefensorFortis
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First of all, unless you’re in your 70s, no chance I’m your “son”.
Second of all, my oath was this:
Son, you don't get to pick and choose what parts of America you like. If you want to toss out some word salad to justify breaking your oath, that'll be between you and God. But make no mistake suggesting armed rebellion because your feelings are hurt by the current politics is treasonous and against your oath.
I wouldn't be shocked if you got the big chicken dinner the way you talk.
Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:39 am to DefensorFortis
Anarchy is not a govt system
Thanks for checking all the name calling boxes
Keeping it intellectually lite
Thanks for checking all the name calling boxes
Keeping it intellectually lite
Posted on 9/13/23 at 8:41 am to DefensorFortis
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I lost men in wars we had no business fighting and I have to live with that every day…to know that I bought into all the lies of WMDs and “fighting terror”…i carry that daily.
Lord have mercy for your conscience, DF. And thank you and those for sacrificing conscience and blood for the cause of Truth, while people like me get a pass. Like Trump has exposed, we now have learned the hard way to never again trust those in power, and there should be total transparency as a failsafe for those who exercise great power.
Albeit, the ship of Constitutional Principle and LIMITED and verifiable Government has sailed. And we now are on the cusp of the *Democratic* Tyranny that the Founders rightly feared and loathed. And given the open Border and coming Digital Currency/AI powered ESG we are guaranteed a painful future any way we cut it. You well know the power of massive numbers of 'boots on the ground' that are well armed and hide in the shadows.
Thank you, DF. It's on the profiteering liars, and not you and yours. Jesus will clean this mess up, pretty soon, after we learn our last, critical 'lesson'. God speed.
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