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Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:00 pm to Hangover Haven
I’m a fireman in metro Atlanta. We regularly go to a vent unit at the nursing home on calls. They usually have about 14 long term care pts there with a staff of about 4-5. If the morons that we encounter there can run these things then anyone can.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:02 pm to Feelthebarn
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We dont need the fricking things anyway
Probably not, but maybe it's better to have them and not need them?
I think that if The State Of New York wants ventilators, they should have to pay for them. Not just a gift.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:08 pm to auggie
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Building these ventilators isn't going to be quick.
It will be faster than you think.
quote:LINK
In Minneapolis, auto supplier Twin City Die Castings Co, which had signed a contract to supply Ventec about nine months ago, quickly amped up its plans, CEO Todd Olson said. The employee-owned company makes aluminum and magnesium parts for the ventilator compressor and housing.
Now Twin City is converting the parts it was making into die casts for higher-volume production as the volume target has gone from making parts for 150 ventilators a month to as many as 20,000, he said.
Such a conversion would normally have taken 12 weeks to complete, Olson said, but is being done in one week as employees work almost non-stop.
Ventec makes a pretty nice ventilator.
Worse case scenario we'll break out the old fashioned manual ventilators.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:17 pm to SportTiger1
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give me a my BIL the plans, and 3d printer, and a 12 pack...PROFIT
Ask and you shall receive.
From Wikipedia:
Open-source ventilator
An open-source ventilator is a disaster-situation ventilator made using freely-licensed, reverse-engineered, 3-D-printed and readily-available components.[14][15] The design began during the 2019-2020 coronavirus pandemic after a Hackaday project was started.[16][non-primary source needed] On March 20, 2020 Irish Health Services[17] began reviewing designs[18][19]. A prototype is being designed and tested in Colombia[20].
The Polish company Urbicum reports successful testing[21] of a 3D-printed open-source prototype device called VentilAid. The makers describe it as a last resort device when professional equipment is missing. The design is publicly available[22]. The first Ventilaid prototype requires compressed air to run.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:26 pm to WeeWee
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Now Twin City is converting the parts it was making into die casts for higher-volume production as the volume target has gone from making parts for 150 ventilators a month to as many as 20,000, he said.
See, this was kind of my point. Normally parts would be machined from high quality billet, now to up production, they are resorting to cast parts, which can be produced much faster, and will work just fine.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 5:47 pm to auggie
Ventilators are a red herring. These Democrat Governors need to shut their traps, stop bitching, and stop running to be the VP Nominee.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:02 pm to PoorOtis
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m a fireman in metro Atlanta. We regularly go to a vent unit at the nursing home on calls. They usually have about 14 long term care pts there with a staff of about 4-5. If the morons that we encounter there can run these things then anyone can.
Not even close my man..
Why you think they work at those type of places? They’re morons... Same as why certain nurses work at those type of places. They can’t hack having really sick patients.. It’s inot even close to same patient acuity.
Where I work, I intubated pt’s, start a-lines and manage my own vents. You think those nursing home employees are doing that?
Those patients don’t even come close to what we’re dealing with right now.
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:09 pm to Hangover Haven
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They can’t hack having really sick patients
Patients on ventilators aren’t really sick?
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:14 pm to Dawgfanman
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Patients on ventilators aren’t really sick?
No, not necessarily. There are vent dependent patients that actually live at home on vents, IE Steve Gleason...
This post was edited on 3/24/20 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:26 pm to auggie
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Medical equipment requires specially certified parts, made from certified materials.
If it really is going to get as bad as they say it is, it’s time to shoot from the hip. If it comes to it, I’d take a shitty-arse Dollar Tree ventilator over nothing.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:27 pm to auggie
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Building these ventilators isn't going to be quick.
Or necessary for much longer. The need for ventilators is grossly overstated.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:31 pm to auggie
The FDA approved CPAP and BiPAP machines as substitute ventilators. That will pick up some of the slack.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:37 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:So, is muh ventilators fake or not?
Those "certified" can be stored until the next crisis and we won't have "Muh ventilators!" next time.
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