re: Budget comparisons between St George & other Louisiana cities

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EBR Sheriff could continue to do it.



Exactly, they should expect the same level of coverage they have now plus they'll have a police chief.

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Then why is there $3 million in the SG budget for sheriff's expenses?

You realize that of the in the EBR sheriff's department, 350 of them work full time at the EBR prision, right? They don't patrol the streets.

The Kleinpeter Station station is responsible for patrolling most of the parish area known as St George. What does the sheriff's website say about the staffing at that station?

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The actual patrol area covers an area of approximately 80 square miles and has an area resident population of approximately 100,000. The Kleinpeter Substation operates with 33 uniformed deputies, four shifts (each consisting of 8 deputies), and the Substation Commander. One clerical position is also assigned to the substation.

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So, 8 deputies on duty at any given time to protect 100,000 people.

As a reminder, SG consists of 85 square miles and 107,000 people.

The Burbank substation covers the Gardere Lane area. It has 33 deputies assigned to it.

The Central substation patrols the parish area north of Fla Blvd and includes the entire city limits of Central City. It has 30 persons assigned to it.

Two other substations are outside the SG part of the parish, Scotlandville and Chenyville/Pride.

So the entire street patrol staff by the sheriff's office is 103 and that includes the deputies who are assigned just to Central City and not to SG.

With 107,000 population in SG and, at most, 103 patrol deputies, the ratio is 1 patrol deputy for every 1,039 persons in SG.

The BRPD employs 789 uniformed officers (and 97 non-uniformed, clerical employees) assigned to cover 230,058 city residents for a ratio of 1 uniformed officer for every 292 persons.

How much more police protection is that $3 million a year going to buy?

I think the $3 Mill to the sheriff was for "supplemental" coverage. To bolster the current patrols.

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quote: EBR Sheriff could continue to do it. Exactly, they should expect the same level of coverage they have now plus they'll have a police chief. Then why is there $3 million in the SG budget for sheriff's expenses? You realize that of the in the EBR sheriff's department, 350 of them work full time at the EBR prision, right? They don't patrol the streets. The Kleinpeter Station station is responsible for patrolling most of the parish area known as St George. What does the sheriff's website say about the staffing at that station? quote:The actual patrol area covers an area of approximately 80 square miles and has an area resident population of approximately 100,000. The Kleinpeter Substation operates with 33 uniformed deputies, four shifts (each consisting of 8 deputies), and the Substation Commander. One clerical position is also assigned to the substation. So, 8 deputies on duty at any given time to protect 100,000 people. As a reminder, SG consists of 85 square miles and 107,000 people. The Burbank substation covers the Gardere Lane area. It has 33 deputies assigned to it. The Central substation patrols the parish area north of Fla Blvd and includes the entire city limits of Central City. It has 30 persons assigned to it. Two other substations are outside the SG part of the parish, Scotlandville and Chenyville/Pride. So the entire street patrol staff by the sheriff's office is 103 and that includes the deputies who are assigned just to Central City and not to SG. With 107,000 population in SG and, at most, 103 patrol deputies, the ratio is 1 patrol deputy for every 1,039 persons in SG. The BRPD employs 789 uniformed officers (and 97 non-uniformed, clerical employees) assigned to cover 230,058 city residents for a ratio of 1 uniformed officer for every 292 persons. How much more police protection is that $3 million a year going to buy?

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Duh, we are either under protected now, or we are fine but if St. George incorporates NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. We will still be policed by the sheriff just as we are now.

But I will play along, instead of forming a city we should be demanding more protection right now from Kip and Sid Gautreaux if your assertions are correct because the St. George city deal has nothing to do with changes in police coverage.

By the way I doubt we need the same manpower to police our streets that they need in Baton Rouge proper, but we'll take any extra help they can send us.

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It was reported at the time that if they were a city then they would have a better chance, but you are right there are no guarantees.

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There was an article on NOLA.com last week that predicted a 2/3 vote and statewide passage for a new school district in SG would not happen.

Bodi White was quoted in that article claiming a new school district for SG would not require a constitutional amendment (like Zachary, Baker and Central did) so a 2/3 legislative approval and a statewide referendum is not necessary. He all but admitted that a 2/3 approval by the legislature for a SG school district would be impossible to achieve.

His explanation why a SG school district would be treated differently from Zachary, Baker and Central exceeded my cognitive abilities to comprehend. It had something to do with the city running the school system and not a school board overseeing it. He said if the city runs the school system rather than a school board then technically SG would not be creating a new school district. It was very confusing.

That same article quoted an attorney who has represented some school systems as saying there is no way a new school district could be established without a constitutional amendment no matter what elected body oversees the new district.

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And on the first page you said something about St George having representation of 7 of the 12 districts.

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That is correct.

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PLEASE tell me you're joking.

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I'm NOT joking.

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St George touches 7 districts

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Not just 'touches' 7 districts but voters who live in the proposed SG area are represented NOW by 7 council members. There is no disputing that.

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dicktator

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I don't even.....

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if St. George incorporates NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE.

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Of course things are going to change. You can't be that naive to think nothing will change.

The new mayor of SG alone will want police/security stationed in or around his office.

It will require more personnel.

You remind me of a company where I once worked which was merged into another larger company. When the larger company's CEO got up in front of my company's employees and told us "no one's job will change as a result of the merger" I busted out laughing. I got some mean looks but within a year after the merger over 100 employees had been "right sized" out the door.

"If you like your insurance company, you can keep it. Period."

Riiiiggggghhhhtttt......

Fine dude. I posted the link so anyone without municipal-colored glasses could see that with the current boundaries, St George will not be fairly represented. There are about 3 districts that solely lie in St George's proposed area. Everyone else would have divided interests.

Pretty weak, things aren't going to change because we need a cop to guard the mayor.

Stick to the finance angle, telling us we'll need more police protection if we become a city is ridiculous. It's not like the bad guys will wake up the next morning and decide to go to St. George now that it's a city to rape and plunder.

And when Gautreaux runs for reelection he'll want the St. George voters who count just as much as the otter voters in the parish to vote for him, and he will continue to do a good job.

Scaring people as if police services will disappear if st. George incorporates is Obamalike and certainly you are better than that.

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people in St. George are smart enough to decide what's best for us and we don't need Central people or Baton Rouge people trying to tell us what is best for us.

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Thanks for the chuckle. I needed that.

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Scaring people as if police services will disappear if st. George incorporates is Obamalike and certainly you are better than that.

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Where did I say police services would disappear? I didn't. Stop distorting what I wrote. That is Obamalike.....