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re: Brown University Shooting Thread: UPDATE, Also Suspect in MIT murder; Committed Suicide
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:48 am to IvoryBillMatt
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:48 am to IvoryBillMatt
IMPORTANT
Want the facts?
Here are the relevant facts laid out in the arrest warrant affidavit:
Affidavit in Support of Warrant
Want the facts?
Here are the relevant facts laid out in the arrest warrant affidavit:
Affidavit in Support of Warrant
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:51 am to IvoryBillMatt
That affidavit certainly must constitute perjury, because I was assured by the vast majority of this forum that the Providence police were doing absolutely nothing to find and track the killer.
FTR, the Integrity Tally on the “Apologies to Mustapha” thread remains at ... zero.
FTR2, I upvoted your OP. Good find.
FTR, the Integrity Tally on the “Apologies to Mustapha” thread remains at ... zero.
FTR2, I upvoted your OP. Good find.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 9:55 am
Posted on 12/19/25 at 9:52 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Here's the Reddit post that broke the case:


Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:02 am to RelentlessAnalysis
quote:
because I was assured by the vast majority of this forum that the Providence police were doing absolutely nothing to find and track the killer.
Like most, I was annoyed with the communication style with the Rhode Island gang. For instance, TELL the public what the shooter was reported by some to have said.
Ultimately, good for them, they solved the case.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:04 am to PorkSammich
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Police, AG, Feds circle jerking each other over finding this guy but without the “homeless” dude the guy would still be running free.
Cops rely on eyewitness and community for information for almost every single homicide case.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:06 am to PorkSammich
quote:How do you think law-enforcement officials normally solve crimes?
Police, AG, Feds circle jerking each other over finding this guy but without the “homeless” dude the guy would still be running free.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:06 am to RelentlessAnalysis
Thx for the upvote.
As for the offer for reconciliation, I still think the situation could have been ameliorated by officials through open communication.
As for the offer for reconciliation, I still think the situation could have been ameliorated by officials through open communication.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:18 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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How do you think law-enforcement officials normally solve crimes?
From tips and local help.
Just get up there and acknowledge that not continuous hand jobs to each other for such a great job after you obviously had no clue what was going on.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:31 am to PorkSammich
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Just get up there and acknowledge that not continuous hand jobs to each other for such a great job after you obviously had no clue what was going on.
The Providence PD and Brown University have opened themselves up to significant civil lawsuits ...
Will be interesting to see the follow-on press conferences as these lawsuits start being filed ...
Posted on 12/19/25 at 10:38 am to AmishSamurai
Brown, definitely.
What's your theory about Providence's culpability?
What's your theory about Providence's culpability?
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:07 am to BigTigerJoe
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Admins and dear readers: The OP over a number of threads tried to steer and control the narrative during the Butler assassination attempt on Trump.
This same individual is tactfully directing and controlling the narrative on the Brown shooting.
There appears to be attempts to mitigate and soften negative opinions towards the University.
This may or not be apparent to most posters or admins.
quote:
But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.
For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men.
BigTigerJoe or any of the other cowards who upvoted his comment, are you man enough to back up the allegation that I was steering this to protect Brown and that I'm a "traitor"?
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:10 am to IvoryBillMatt
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The disclosure from the authorities is so bad we don't even know if the time of this voluntary study session was posted. Also, the session had run a few minutes late according to the T.A. that ran it. So, the shooter almost missed the class
For all we know, he could have entered the building looking for targets of opportunity and this just happened to be the first one he encountered. In fact, I think that's the most likely explanation, based on what we know now.
Its been posted that the week of the shooting was a study time, and that there was a Physics class during that time that had an exam but it was moved to another location or time due to it being final exams.
So the thought process was that he thought he was going into a Physics class, but it was a study session for an Economics class.
This was all posted on a chat, and likely used within the university established messaging programs that likely was not available to outside parties?
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:13 am to SundayFunday
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+Why was the university wiping their system clean of 1 particular person that happened to match the description/potentially had ideological motives to kill people and who totally had nothing to do with the situation?
I don't know the truth of what happened, but one reason could be that internet sleuths found that person and accused him of being the murderer since he was Palestinian and had pronouns in his profile, without any real evidence that he was a suspect.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:16 am to IvoryBillMatt
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Like most, I was annoyed with the communication style with the Rhode Island gang. For instance, TELL the public what the shooter was reported by some to have said.
Ultimately, good for them, they solved the case.
They bungled the case, and have been completely inept in sharing information about the case and answering questions about the case.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:19 am to TigerIron
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I don't know the truth of what happened, but one reason could be that internet sleuths found that person and accused him of being the murderer since he was Palestinian and had pronouns in his profile, without any real evidence that he was a suspect.
They also found a photo online of him wearing similar colored clothing and he looked to fit the description in skin color and build.
I don't know the exact right move here, but its hard to blame a University, Corporation, etc. for removing a members profile when the internet is all over them. The optics look bad, but its also unprofessional for them to allow it to continue.
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:19 am to TigerIron
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, but one reason could be that internet sleuths found that person and accused him of being the murderer since he was Palestinian and had pronouns in his profile, without any real evidence that he was a suspect.
Actually the removal of his profile increased the attention on him because it was so weird.
Despite this, they still never unequivocally denied/cleared him as a suspect.
All they had to do was provide extremely clear language that he was without a doubt NOT the suspect along with some other piece of evidence backing it up and it would have been done.
What did we get instead? Silence, vagueness, and misdirection. The president even claimed to have "no clue" his name was even scrubbed.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 11:20 am
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:27 am to IvoryBillMatt
Mad props to the homeless man who solved the case
He could have easily been killed
He could have easily been killed
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:30 am to baldona
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So the thought process was that he thought he was going into a Physics class, but it was a study session for an Economics class.
Thanks. I hadn't seen that.
ABSENT some inside information, I don't think there could have been a reasonable expectation of a class meeting in that room on a SATURDAY afternoon (see AI capture from Brown Registrar below). The perp was in Providence several days before the shooting. If he had wanted to shoot up a large physics class, he could have done that on any weekday.
From the arrest warrant, shell casings were found OUTSIDE the classroom. Also, the T.A. said that he thought he heard gunshots just prior to the gunman entering the room.
I haven't been able to find a floor plan, but I suspect Room 166 just happened to be the first active classroom/large concentration of targets the killer encountered.
##### ChatGPT re Saturday physics classes...
Here’s what we can tell about physics classes at Brown University in the Fall semester and whether any met on Saturday afternoons:
?? Typical Fall Physics Class Schedules
From the most recent available course listings (Brown Bulletin/Physics Department), all regular physics courses — at least undergrad ones — during Fall 2025 are scheduled on weekdays (Monday through Friday). For example:
Intro physics and labs meet MWF or T/Th/W/F in weekday slots (no Saturday listed).
Standard scheduling guidelines at Brown generally assign courses to weekday times (e.g., MWF 50-minute blocks, TTh 80-minute blocks, or seminars 2.5 hrs on one weekday).
?? Do Brown Classes Ever Meet on Saturdays?
Brown’s Registrar standard meeting patterns do not include Saturday class blocks in regular undergraduate schedules. Courses are normally assigned within Monday–Friday time slots.
If there were special Saturday sessions (like makeup classes, field trips, or optional labs), they would be noted individually in the schedule, but in the standard listings there are no Saturday meetings for physics classes in the fall.
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 11:34 am
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:39 am to IvoryBillMatt
We know anything about the killer yet? Was this politically motovated?
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:41 am to CapnKangaroo
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We know anything about the killer yet? Was this politically motovated?
Unknown so far. Seems more personal.
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