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re: Breaking: Supreme Court Blocks Trump’s Use of Alien Enemies Act to Deport Illegals
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:20 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:20 pm to boosiebadazz
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At a macro level, the process is proscribed by the Constitution. At a micro level, it’s detailed by Congress.
Any changes need to go through one of those two routes.
None of the things the Trump admin is doing are in violation of the constitution or of any laws.
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Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:23 pm to imjustafatkid
Except the “administrative oversight” that sent him to the exact country a judge said he cannot go. Utilizing a law passed by Congress that gave him that exact power.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:24 pm to boosiebadazz
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Except the “administrative oversight” that sent him to the exact country a judge said he cannot go. Utilizing a law passed by Congress that gave him that exact power.
I believe this thread is about a different case.
That one is over. He's not coming back. Ever. There's nothing to discuss.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:28 pm to Taxing Authority
While I agree with almost everything that you wrote, this:
Is simplistic in delivery, but complex in practice.
I mean, it could be argued that El Salvador is a dictatorship.
I would argue that we have been living in a bureaucratic dictatorship for quite some time.
Then again, I see Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Biden as all being on team bureaucracy.
Ditto Congress.
I suppose we will see if the judiciary is part of that bureaucratic alignment.
Time will tell.
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Beats the f*ck out of a dictatorship.
Is simplistic in delivery, but complex in practice.
I mean, it could be argued that El Salvador is a dictatorship.
I would argue that we have been living in a bureaucratic dictatorship for quite some time.
Then again, I see Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, and Biden as all being on team bureaucracy.
Ditto Congress.
I suppose we will see if the judiciary is part of that bureaucratic alignment.
Time will tell.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:32 pm to jimmy the leg
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I mean, it could be argued that El Salvador is a dictatorship.
He suspended the constitution. That’s dictatorship 101.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:33 pm to boosiebadazz
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Except the “administrative oversight” that sent him to the exact country a judge said he cannot go. Utilizing a law passed by Congress that gave him that exact power.
Given that the Trump administration holds being designated a member of a foreign terrorist organization makes them deportable, where does the USSC go with this?
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:38 pm to imjustafatkid
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None of the things the Trump admin is doing are in violation of the constitution or of any laws.
Imagine just being this dumb and uninformed but dumb dumb keeps running his mouth. I find it to be fascinating.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:38 pm to boosiebadazz
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He suspended the constitution. That’s dictatorship 101.
Agreed.
Yet, the judiciary, legislature, and military were all corrupt.
Was there a legitimate path forward for them?
Their residents (en masse) don’t seem to think so.
It was basically a failed state.
Now, it may be the safest nation in the western hemisphere.
I’m not supporting a dictatorship, but unless the USSC gets the judiciary cleaned up, then I don’t have any faith in any legitimate pathway going forward.
Just my .02.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:40 pm to Warrior Court
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Imagine just being this dumb and uninformed but dumb dumb keeps running his mouth. I find it to be fascinating.
What you quoted, that I stated, is the truth.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:41 pm to MrLSU
The backwardness of the SCOTUS ruling. One part it’s says the Act isn’t under Judicial Review while then reviewing it.
Talk about making no sense.
Talk about making no sense.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:41 pm to jimmy the leg
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Agreed.
Yet, the judiciary, legislature, and military were all corrupt.
Was there a legitimate path forward for them?
Their residents (en masse) don’t seem to think so.
It was basically a failed state.
Now, it may be the safest nation in the western hemisphere.
I’m not supporting a dictatorship, but unless the USSC gets the judiciary cleaned up, then I don’t have any faith in any legitimate pathway going forward.
Just my .02.
I guess the other option is civil war. The way we're headed now is not sustainable. We have morons itt actually arguing that the courts are correct to block the will of the people via judicial fiat.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:42 pm to Warrior Court
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Imagine just being this dumb and uninformed
This is an apt description of your apparent knowledge and understanding of constitutional law.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:42 pm to imjustafatkid
Take it up with the Supreme Court, fat dummy.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:43 pm to BBONDS25
The Supreme Coirt disagrees with you, dummy.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:43 pm to Knight of Old
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not settled law
But it is. Precedent has been set that the Act cannot be judicially reviewed.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:43 pm to Warrior Court
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Take it up with the Supreme Court, fat dummy.
Good luck supporting this statement with any facts.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:43 pm to Warrior Court
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Take it up with the Supreme Court, fat dummy.
Because of a temporary stay while allowing time for arguments? You do not need to be calling anyone a dummy.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:44 pm to imjustafatkid
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That's what this entire thread is about. If you're advocating for this, you are arguing that our government should not be able to freely perform this very basic function of a government.
People are arguing that the admin should not be able to perform any function that exceeds their statutory authority or violates their Constitutional limits over that authority, and if the courts rule they have acted illegally, they should be required to follow those court rulings.
The admin should never be able to "freely perform" any behavior in violation of their statutory authority or Constitutional limits on their authority.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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People are arguing that the admin should not be able to perform any function that exceeds their statutory authority or violates their Constitutional limits over that authority,
They aren't. The courts are.
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The admin should never be able to "freely perform" any behavior in violation of their statutory authority or Constitutional limits on their authority.
If removing illegal aliens is beyond the authority of our government, the laws are wrong.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:46 pm to the808bass
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I asked specifically what “have to” means.
Do I have to drive the speed limit?
Already covered
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Ignoring court orders is theoretically possible but would clearly violate the Constitution
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