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re: Breaking: Kari Lake loses trial to overturn Arizona Governor election - Vows to appeal

Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:29 am to
Posted by DEG
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2009
10861 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:29 am to
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The ironic part is that Trump wouldn’t want your support anyway.




The clown literally begged for votes in my state after the election.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36766 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:38 am to
Well then I can see how it would’ve been deflating to isolated in rejection while all your fellow statepeople felt wanted.

K let’s calm it down, I’m mostly being a wise arse, however I do think your summary of events piggybacking on that of Goldmill is a bit dramatic and soft. To each his own though.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:04 am to
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How do you verify that it is the right person who is submitting the ballot?


Do you do any banking outside of in person with a clerk or advisor?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:06 am to
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Lol, nonstop peddling of this talking point like the Russian Collusion Big Lie


I'm shocked that your response has no substance and an idiotic comparison.

Completely shocked...
Posted by Courageous Lion
Wherever I am
Member since Dec 2022
7 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:09 am to
One schmuck paid off judge deciding this is a 'trial'?
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35948 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:11 am to
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The clown literally begged for votes in my state after the election.


Fussing about votes is so antiquated, right Dems?
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
17303 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:14 am to
Do you do any banking where they don’t verify your identification?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42475 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:14 am to
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Arizona law is clear: even inadvertent errors in election require setting aside result if it casts outcome in doubt. Intentionality is NOT required when the error casts actual winner "in doubt."
https://mobile.twitter.com/barnes_law/status/1606329622416744448
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:14 am to
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Do you do any banking where they don’t verify your identification?


Yes. Almost daily.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49548 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:17 am to
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The vast majority of Americans never get to hear the America First message….

This has been going on for a couple of decades at least - it just got more pronounced after Obama graced us with his presence. Then after Trump broke the rules and actually WON in '16 they just tossed off their disguises and went full-bore propaganda.
And America's weakness has been verified = 'weak men make hard times'

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you know that, you’re not an idiot.

no he is not - that makes him worse than an idiot - he is typical of the vile mentality that is driving all this madness. Stupid in a moral sense, but wickedly sharp in taking advantage of trusting people.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2071 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:26 am to
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quote:Arizona law is clear: even inadvertent errors in election require setting aside result if it casts outcome in doubt. Intentionality is NOT required when the error casts actual winner "in doubt."


As you have been asked multiple times in this thread, why don’t you address the judge’s opinion where he specifically addresses state law and say where he messed up and how? Or continue to post tweets that allow you to avoid that. Your call.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49548 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:27 am to
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Do you do any banking outside of in person with a clerk or advisor?

Sure - I deposit checks using my phone, and authorize payments thru my internet connections.

But I myself take all the risks. And if my account is hacked, other than from my own carelessness, the bank is responsible to fix that for me so I am not effected.

not so with the ballot harvester - or the person who he is voting 'for' - the ballot harvester gets paid either in filthy lucre or by advancing his own desires while the rest of us have to live under whatever his particular whims of the day happened to get enacted into law.

I;m not about to engage you with tit-for-tat bullshite about a known ethical problem. ballot harvesting is "legal" in the sense that those who benefit from it happen to be in charge right now (imagine that) and will not enforce the already feeble 'laws' that prevent it.

John Adams was correct - our constitution will not work for a population that is not both moral and religious.

You'd better hope your progeny does not curse your memory. You and your ilk are the cause of all this bullshite. Hope you live long enough to find out just how 'important' a 'useful idiot' you really are once the tyranny doesn't need you anymore.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77798 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:28 am to
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One schmuck paid off judge deciding this is a 'trial'?

Only so far. It'll end up at SCOTUS.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2071 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:33 am to
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Only so far. It'll end up at SCOTUS.


What is the possible federal question that would bring SCOTUS into it in the first place? Read the judge’s opinion, where did he err? People love to say wait until it gets to SCOTUS when it’s not even a federal issue. This will never be taken up by SCOTUS. Don’t get your hopes up as you are setting yourself up for more disappointment.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:34 am to
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Sure


Cool.

Then you should understand why requiring only in person voting is idiotic.

Cultist claims of stolen elections aside, you have no real reason to oppose voting by mail or ballot collection.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42475 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:37 am to
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Or continue to post tweets that allow you to avoid that. Your call.


There’s nothing to avoid.

I thought Robert Barns was pretty clear in his tweet. The judge set the parameters like he wanted and interpreted the way he or Mark Elias wanted. It’s clear he could have ordered another election. He punted.
Posted by LSU2ALA
Member since Jul 2018
2071 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:44 am to
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There’s nothing to avoid. I thought Robert Barns was pretty clear in his tweet. The judge set the parameters like he wanted and interpreted the way he or Mark Elias wanted. It’s clear he could have ordered another election. He punted.


The judge went through what the law requires for a revote and how Lake got nowhere near it. It is well reasoned and cites precedent. You prefer a random tweet because it agrees with what you want.

Just admit, you don’t care what the law is. You just want a revote because your preferred candidate lost. You want judicial activism and not a judge applying the law. You’re as bad as what you accuse Democrats of.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33417 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:46 am to
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'm shocked that your response has no substance and an idiotic comparison.

Your voter suppression Big Lie has no substance and I’m not shocked at all that you continue to peddle it
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 8:49 am to
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Your voter suppression Big Lie has no substance and I’m not shocked at all that you continue to peddle it


Well, it isn't a "Big Lie." It doesn't exist and it isn't a claim I've made.

I'm simply pointing out that the widespread access to voting prevents that.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42475 posts
Posted on 12/27/22 at 9:03 am to
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The judge went through what he thought the law requires for a revote and how Lake got nowhere near it.


My understanding is he set the bar higher than the law requires. I'm not an attorney, so maybe one can weigh in.

I started a whole thread quoting the former Maricopa Country elections attorney where she appears to feel the same way.

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