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re: Breaking: D.C. Court of Appeals rejects Michael Flynn’s effort to have charges dismissed

Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:48 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:48 am to






What a shocker.

Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:49 am to
Well that’s no surprise. Trump will have to pardon him.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:49 am to
If the case goes to trial I wonder who will be sitting at the prosecution's table since the prosecution has asked the charges to be dismissed??

ETA: Or will the prosecution's opening statements to the jury be "The government believes the charges against the defendant should be dismissed. The prosecution rests."
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 11:54 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23690 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:53 am to
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You are misunderstanding the case

This was not about the merits of the case


No, I'm not. This was a mandamus action. Mandamus would only be appropriate if the action desired was ministerial and the complainant has no other remedy at law. The issue is whether the District Court can hold a hearing to find out why the DOJ wants to drop the charges after a guilty plea has been entered. Mandamus clearly isn't available here.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:53 am to
It isn’t going to trial, Flynn plead guilty. Only avenue is pardon by Trump. This case isn’t being dismissed.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62403 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:55 am to
Whatever Flynn has on Obama, it must be damning
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:56 am to
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23690 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:56 am to
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It isn’t going to trial, Flynn plead guilty. Only avenue is pardon by Trump. This case isn’t being dismissed.


The District Judge could still allow the guilty plea to be withdrawn and the charges dismissed. That ruling hasn't been made yet. Flynn's attorneys are arguing that the District Court can't ask why DOJ wants to withdraw and dismiss after the plea is entered. The propaganda monkeys have no farking clue what they are talking about.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36014 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:57 am to
Trump needs to step in. He can pardon Flynn, or he could tell Barr to finally admit in court that the DOJ committed gross prosecutorial misconduct, which was why Flynn pled guilty to a charge the DOJ knew they couldn't prove (lack of materiality). That leaves Sullivan with no room to deny the Motion. The problem is that Barr has yet to allow the DOJ to admit to this gross misconduct. Swamp gonna swamp.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69285 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:58 am to
Judge Sullivan has done this in previous cases where DOJ dropped charges

He will Agree to drop them after he finds out why the DOJ wants to do so
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:58 am to
this stall tactic is so obvious.

Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36014 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:59 am to
That last sentence is judge speak for dismiss the case.
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26635 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 11:59 am to
This is such utter bullshite. DOJ has dropped the charges. What case is there to pursue?

This man is being railroaded by corrupt Dem judges, PERIOD.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22366 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:02 pm to
This is all about politics. If the case is dismissed that would establish a better environment for the investigation to move forward after the election if Trump wins. The dismissal Wil help establish the fact that he was railroaded. If he has to pardon Flynn the dems and the media will use the argument that Flynn was actually guilty and had to be pardoned.

That is what this is about. Another ploy to sabotage and discredit any and all investigations moving forward. In other words, covering Obama's arse.
This post was edited on 8/31/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
26635 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:04 pm to
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Flynn plead guilty.


Yes, then evidence came to light that he was railroaded. He wanted to change his plea, then the DOJ moved to drop the charges. Judge Sullivan will not accept the charges being dropped. He wants to act as prosecutor now, not judge.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146683 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Trump needs to step in. He can pardon Flynn, or he could tell Barr to finally admit in court that the DOJ committed gross prosecutorial misconduct, which was why Flynn pled guilty to a charge the DOJ knew they couldn't prove (lack of materiality). That leaves Sullivan with no room to deny the Motion. The problem is that Barr has yet to allow the DOJ to admit to this gross misconduct. Swamp gonna swamp.
If Trump inquires to Barr he will be told he is interfering with the almighty great court process...

If Trump pardons it stains Flynn from any govt position; because it would be said the almighty court process was not allowed to play-out.

Deep State 1234567890

Justice 0

Trust the stall tactic plan
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:05 pm to
Its political show for the most part, but not very important. Trump wins, the case will be dismissed, Trump loses, a pardon just to make sure it doesn't go anywhere.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22499 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:06 pm to
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The propaganda monkeys have no farking clue what they are talking about.
All they care about is the optics. John Q Citizen can hardly keep up without a scorecard.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59788 posts
Posted on 8/31/20 at 12:06 pm to
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Whatever Flynn has on Obama, it must be damning


Swamp creatures on both sides of the aisle are positively TERRIFIED of Flynn walking free and being out from under that gag order.
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