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re: BREAKING / NBC News: DOJ announces the arrest of Russian National Mariia Butina
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
she was indicted for failure to register as a foreign agent AND conspiracy to commit offense to the united states.
DOJ indictment
DOJ indictment
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:24 pm to BBONDS25
quote:
have no idea. I'm not surprised by your hopes/expectations. What I am confident about is that trump will not be found guilty of any crime and he will be president for 6 more years. I am also confident that if there was a crime committed of the nature being alleged...it is far more likely the democrats are the guilty party.
except that there are a lot of republicans indicting republicans right now.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:25 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Any idea how long the jail sentence is for that?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:25 pm to Decatur
Wait wait, so she's a LOBBYIST?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:25 pm to Decatur
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DOJ announces the arrest of Russian National Mariia Butina
That’s one.
Now if they want to bring her to trial, DoJ has to tip their hand. Good.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
no clue. unlike a lot of people here, i don't pretend to know what i don't know.
generally, i just ask questions, try to shine a light on what things are actually being said, and what is actually contained in the documents that we have access to.
generally, i just ask questions, try to shine a light on what things are actually being said, and what is actually contained in the documents that we have access to.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:28 pm to Broke
she is a lobbyist who failed to register as a foreign agent which is illegal.
also according to the indictment made by the National Security wing of the DOJ (not Mueller), she is a lobbyist who failed register as a foreign agent who allegedly conspired to commit offense to the united states.
also according to the indictment made by the National Security wing of the DOJ (not Mueller), she is a lobbyist who failed register as a foreign agent who allegedly conspired to commit offense to the united states.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:29 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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you could say, hey, play ball with us. we'll take down your opponent AND keep your secrets safe.
They would have been exposed for trying to pull a Bernie on Trump.
Why didn't the Russians release info that would help Trump?
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:29 pm to Godfather1
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That’s one.
Now if he wants to bring her to trial, DoJ has to tip their hand. Good.
how many times must we explain that this isn't mueller?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:30 pm to LSU Fan 90812
You better accept my FB friend request you dick 
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:30 pm to cahoots
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how many times must we explain that this isn't mueller?
I caught that. And I edited accordingly.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
Any idea how long the jail sentence is for that?
5 years for failing to register.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:32 pm to Decatur
Chapman was much better looking.
Wisdom to pass onto my son: Don't trust Russian redheads.
Wisdom to pass onto my son: Don't trust Russian redheads.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:32 pm to Bunyan
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This is Trump - Russia collusion?
He lives in DC too. Coincidence? I think not
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:32 pm to junkfunky
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Why didn't the Russians release info that would help Trump?
not sure if you're joking. they totally did release the DNC emails. remember?
LINK
basically, the timeline is Russia hacks DNC, hacking group Guccifer takes credit for it, Julian Assange disseminates information, it hits press right before the election.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:33 pm to cahoots
3 additional questions I have
1) is this a plea deal? Is she a cooperating person?
2) I have not read the indictment, but I read a yahoo article about it: does the indictment allege she worked to interfere in 2016 election or simply to infiltrate advocacy groups to get to politicians?
3) Why wouldn’t mueller be involved here? This seems fairly relevant to the SC
1) is this a plea deal? Is she a cooperating person?
2) I have not read the indictment, but I read a yahoo article about it: does the indictment allege she worked to interfere in 2016 election or simply to infiltrate advocacy groups to get to politicians?
3) Why wouldn’t mueller be involved here? This seems fairly relevant to the SC
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:34 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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except that there are a lot of republicans indicting republicans right now.
I'm not talking about process crimes and financial crimes from years ago while working with the Podestas. I'm talking about indictments for illegal acts Involving Russia and the election. That should have been obvious.
In light of the DNC's admitted collusion with The Ukraine...dnc/Russia shouldn't be too hard to imagine.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:35 pm to BBONDS25
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What I am confident about is that trump will not be found guilty of any crime
I doubt trump stands trial for any federal crimes. He will be pardoned.
quote:
he will be president for 6 more years.
He will win if the economy is doing well, he will lose if it isn't.
quote:
I am also confident that if there was a crime committed of the nature being alleged...it is far more likely the democrats are the guilty party.
quote:
I have no idea.
it appears that you have quite a few ideas, most of them nonsensical.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:36 pm to LSU Fan 90812
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not sure if you're joking. they totally did release the DNC emails. remember?
Not sure if you're stupid. The GOP went full court to keep Trump from the nomination, remember?
ETA: How does releasing that information help Trump?
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 7/16/18 at 3:36 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
1) is this a plea deal? Is she a cooperating person?
not a plea deal yet.
quote:
2) I have not read the indictment, but I read a yahoo article about it: does the indictment allege she worked to interfere in 2016 election or simply to infiltrate advocacy groups to get to politicians?
indictment says that she has been lobbying without registering (illegal)
"Butina is accused of developing relationships with American politicians and a “gun rights organization,” none of which are named in the affidavit supporting the criminal complaint. FBI Special Agent Kevin Helson wrote that Butina was attempting to “establish a ‘back channel’ communication for representatives of the Government of Russia.”"
quote:two guesses.
3) Why wouldn’t mueller be involved here? This seems fairly relevant to the SC
1- this might predate the russian election meddling timeline. some reports have these charges going as far back as 2015, which predates trump's campaign, but is still illegal.
2- while connected tangentially to the investigation, in doing so, these charges would continue even if mueller was fired.
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