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re: Brandon has lost control

Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by FastingFiduciary
Member since May 2022
104 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:48 pm to
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Bull shite. In 2017 we imported 1,137 billion barrels from OPEC countries, in 2018 943 million barrels, 2019 540 million and in 2020 just 298 million barrels. That doesn't qualify as highly dependent.


How can you be so misleading with such confidence?

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We imported between 5-7 million barrels per day of oil between 2018 and 2020. That's around 1.5 billion barrels of crude to 2 billion barrels of crude per year during that time frame. That qualifies as being highly dependent to other nations to me.

Furthermore, if you may have noticed, 2020 was when demand fell off a cliff. There was a global pandemic that affected demand both in the US and the world. Oil prices even turned negative during 2020 because demand fell off a cliff.
This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 10:49 pm
Posted by El_chantajista
Lafayette Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
818 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:52 pm to
Apparently, you know nothing, Biden can make very hard to operate , canceling leases massive regulation , key stone p/l would be a huge help right but obama and biden been shutting it down, ever heard of ESG of course you haven’t google it , i worked almost 40 years In the oil i’ve dealt with SOB’s all the time
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:57 pm to
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How can you be so misleading with such confidence?


My confidence is that I know how to read a post. You pointed out OPEC not total imports. Here's your own words:

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It takes sheer arrogance to think that the president is causing oil prices to go up globally rather than it being a global demand/supply problem primarily caused by OPEC nations.


No more oil than we are presently getting from OPEC wouldn't raise our gas prices as much as they have risen.
Posted by FastingFiduciary
Member since May 2022
104 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 10:58 pm to
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Apparently, you know nothing, Biden can make very hard to operate , canceling leases massive regulation , key stone p/l would be a huge help right but obama and biden been shutting it down, ever heard of ESG of course you haven’t google it , i worked almost 40 years In the oil i’ve dealt with SOB’s all the time


I know a fair deal.

Phase 4 of Keystone would have increased the supply of oil into the US, not the production of oil.

Furthermore, it would have supplied a further 500,000 barrels of oil per day -> that's not going to make a dent in oil prices.

As oil is a global commodity, the Keystone Pipeline would be unlikely to have a significant impact on oil prices as they're determined by global demand-supply factors.

I know what ESG is -> every financial firm states it to a degree. It's not really meaningful and it's just something every firm says for show.

I think Biden scrapping the pipeline is a bad decision and I think he should reverse it BUT it's not going to affect oil prices even if he does.

Posted by FastingFiduciary
Member since May 2022
104 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:03 pm to
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My confidence is that I know how to read a post. You pointed out OPEC not total imports. Here's your own words:



When talking about *dependence*, you conflate OPEC and global dependence. The US being less dependent on OPEC and more on other nations is still dependence but on other nations.

Furthermore, other nations are still highly dependent on OPEC and their demand for oil affects global prices.

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No more oil than we are presently getting from OPEC wouldn't raise our gas prices as much as they have risen.



Yes, it would -> oil is a global commodity.

The prices of oil are determined globally, not by US demand. Other nations get their oil from OPEC nations and their lack of OPEC supply drives up prices.

It's why you had a UK Prime Minister practically beg OPEC to increase oil production.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:07 pm to
OPEC is a cartel. Day 1 macro.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3007 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:09 pm to
He truly does brother!
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3446 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:12 pm to
American president hates oil. American gas prices go through the roof. American president is happy but wants to make sure you know it’s not his fault. Someone else fault I tell you.

FFS - we are not stupid.

How anyone supports this shite is beyond me, but good luck…it will always be someone else’s fault.
Posted by FastingFiduciary
Member since May 2022
104 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:13 pm to
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OPEC is a cartel. Day 1 macro.


I'm not sure how you contradict me here - it supports my point.

That's why Biden really doesn't have much blame in oil prices rising. Oil prices are higher globally.

As you say, day 1 macro.
Posted by FastingFiduciary
Member since May 2022
104 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:15 pm to
I can't believe someone actually typed that out with a straight face.

Oil is a global commodity.

The price of oil is determined by global supply and global demand.

American gas prices have gone up because global prices have gone up. As I keep saying, you people are arrogant enough to think that prices over here are rising because of a US president -> I'm not in the US at the moment and prices are through the roof here.

That's not because of Biden genius.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:18 pm to
My point being we are now relying on global supply, aka the cartel. We were independent, Biden agenda kills US oil.

I mean, he was even negotiating with Maduro.
Posted by El_chantajista
Lafayette Louisiana
Member since Jan 2020
818 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:22 pm to
President Joe Biden's administration raise the cost estimate for the societal impact of greenhouse gases that federal agencies would be able to consider when drafting new regulations Biden could severely affect the bottom line , of the oil companies, affecting out put , literally biden is trying to put the oil companies out of. Business, while begging our enemies for
Posted by FastingFiduciary
Member since May 2022
104 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:25 pm to
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My point being we are now relying on global supply, aka the cartel. We were independent, Biden agenda kills US oil.


No, we weren't independent in the literal sense.

As I've pointed out, the US was importing 7 million barrels of oil per day. We were always reliant on global supply - I keep hearing this and I've had to correct multiple people on this.

We were only a slight net exporter in 2020 and that's because of a pandemic causing demand to fall off a cliff.

The default state of the US is to be a significant net importer of oil. There were only 2 years in the past 50 years where the US was not a net importer of petroleum/crude and that's 2020/2021 -> entirely because of the pandemic.

We were either dependent on OPEC or our allies were dependent on OPEC, which made us dependent on OPEC as oil commodities are globally traded. So if we weren't importing OPEC oil and getting it from other sources, we were still dependent on OPEC because OPEC is a cartel and has a control on prices as they act as a cartel.


This post was edited on 5/27/22 at 11:26 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:27 pm to
Which is all influenced by politics, currently led by a stooge who doesn’t want oil. Which means he’s also inflating the price with his agenda and only giving more leverage to outside trade.
Posted by TigahTeeth
Georgia
Member since Feb 2016
5170 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:30 pm to
Yes we were energy independent. Turn off CNN for Gods sake!

Muh pandemics fault and now muh Putins fault. Lol

Next up is monkey pox fault. Never Bidens
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:30 pm to
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American gas prices have gone up because global prices have gone up.


Then how come our prices are lower than in other countries if global prices have such an impact? My brother just returned from Spain today and he said that gas was over two dollars a liter which is around 7.60 a gallon. It's currently 4.69 here in the states. So why the huge discrepancy?
Posted by AUX3
Member since Dec 2010
3446 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:33 pm to
When the price of gas is a HUGE lever of your economy..it can’t be someone else fault. And if it is…WTF are you doing to get control ….nothing. Zero. Nada. Just let the world deal your fate….kind of like making all of your drugs in China. A well run country controls it’s critical assets, not someone else…
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
8796 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:37 pm to
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cities would be lit right now by antifa and blm.


They were ordered to be burned by antifa and blm by the same people that are responsible for the high gas. Why would yiu think it’s going to happen while they are in control???
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14462 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:39 pm to
Holy shite this dude is like a broken record. You get your talking points through email or text?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 5/27/22 at 11:41 pm to
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As I've pointed out, the US was importing 7 million barrels of oil per day.


That's a drop in the bucket. In 2021 we used 19.78 barrels a day - and that was during a pandemic. Importing 7 million a day would not raise prices like they have.
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