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re: Boy Scouts of America files for bankruptcy amid hundreds of sexual abuse lawsuits

Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:32 am to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:32 am to
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I would trust my kids with a gay/lesbian individual over an evangelical pedophile any day. but keep convincing yourself it's liberals.

I would trust my son with a flat earther over a Nobel peace prize winning rapist.

There, now we’ve both said absolutely nothing relevant.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9253 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:33 am to
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I would trust my kids with a gay/lesbian individual over an evangelical pedophile any day. but keep convincing yourself it's liberals.
I would trust my son with a flat earther over a Nobel peace prize winning rapist.

There, now we’ve both said absolutely nothing relevant.


I wouldn't trust my kid with anyone I didn't know
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:35 am to
So the parents didn’t follow the rule either.

I am fully aware of lazy parenting. People would just drop their kids off at the park all the time and use it for babysitting instead of being there for their child.
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:36 am to
I don't know. I think the majority of boy scout abusers at least are middle aged married men who joined the scouts for access to young boys as opposed to story time trannies.

I just fail to see the connection between liberals and middle aged closeted homosexuals who are probably conservative and church going.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:36 am to
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I wouldn't trust my kid with anyone I didn't know
It’s going to be tough for you to have children.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9253 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:36 am to
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Who was doing the sexual assault then? Adults that no longer had kids in the troop?



I don't know. Sometimes it could have been other scouts. Some of these could be made up to cash in on the lawsuit bandwagon. we are talking stuff decades ago when these accused may be deceased and can't stand up for himself.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9253 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:37 am to
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It’s going to be tough for you to have children.


I have two..
Posted by truthseeker7
Member since Feb 2020
23 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:39 am to
Why dont you quit whining and be goal and solution oriented.
Start your own organization.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:40 am to
Gotcha.

Seems like had the rules been followed then the scouts would have been in a better position.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:43 am to
There are pedophiles in a majority-conservative organization that works with children.

Let's light our torches and go get those gays and liberals.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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89086 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:43 am to
And you’ve known every person that you’ve had to trust with them?
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 10:44 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
89086 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:45 am to
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There are pedophiles in a majority-conservative organization that works with children.

Let's light our torches and go get those gays and liberals.
Exactly.

What the hell is going on here?

Wasn’t the inclusion of gays and women quite recent? Id bet my life the organization was treading water before that.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9253 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:47 am to
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And you’ve known every person that you’ve had to trust with them?


Let's put it like this. When it comes to school I meet the teachers and talk to them frequently. When it comes to Church, I know the families, when it comes to dating or going to friends, I meet the parents. When it comes to Scouting, I became a and adult leader to be there at every camping trip, every meeting so I can keep an eye on my kid and they others to make sure they are okay. My kids don't live in a bubble but I vet strangers as best as I can.
Posted by Apollyon
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:49 am to
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truthseeker7


You joined today, just to post this?

By the way, an increasingly large alternative Christian scouting organization now exists, as a direct result of the BSA's embrace of immorality. In fact, there are now several scouting organizations that are non-BSA aligned.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154906 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:49 am to
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I think the majority of boy scout abusers at least are middle aged married men who joined the scouts for access to young boys


That’s what I’m trying to quantify. You got a link to who these abusers are?

I would have recommended that the scouts avoid scout leaders with no kids in the troop. Use those experienced ex leaders to train the new leaders and to ask them to police the creeps themselves.

The last part of our speech to coaches before the season was to let them know that the last thing they want to do it hurt one of kids they were serving. In any way, shape or form.

We had the luxury of a cop on property and he gave us permission to beat any coach before calling him over. We recruited police officers with kids too and encouraged them to show up in uniform.

The scouts could have done most of those things.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69380 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:52 am to
quote:

There are pedophiles in a majority-conservative organization that works with children.

Let's light our torches and go get those gays and liberals.
Exactly.

What the hell is going on here?

Wasn’t the inclusion of gays and women quite recent? Id bet my life the organization was treading water before that.



Scouting was VERY strong as recent as 2007. The downward trend was initiated by the Obama Administration.

Obama kicked the Boy Scouts out of schools, cutting off their abilities to recruit and meet. This pushed them closer to Church organizations. Then, Obama kicked them off of military bases, limiting their options for camping and severing what was a major recruiting vessel for the armed forces. Then, Obama threatened their tax exempt status if they refused to allow open gays (who were always allowed under a “don’t ask/don’t tell” basis). Knowing losing tax exempt status would bankrupt them, they caved and allowed gay scout leaders which, of course, resulted in many church organizations kicking them out or splitting off and further severing the organization’s primary source for recruits. The Mormon split alone cost the BSA 20% of its members. Hurting for members, the BSA accepted girls into scouting, which of course, raised their liability insurance even higher and increased overhead.

This was all organized and orchestrated to destroy this wholesome organization that meant a lot to me as a teen. Don’t forget that the overwhelming majority of law suits stem from events more than 30 years ago where the perpetrators are dead and cannot defend themselves.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
9253 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 10:59 am to
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quote:
I think the majority of boy scout abusers at least are middle aged married men who joined the scouts for access to young boys


That’s what I’m trying to quantify. You got a link to who these abusers are?

I would have recommended that the scouts avoid scout leaders with no kids in the troop. Use those experienced ex leaders to train the new leaders and to ask them to police the creeps themselves.

The last part of our speech to coaches before the season was to let them know that the last thing they want to do it hurt one of kids they were serving. In any way, shape or form.

We had the luxury of a cop on property and he gave us permission to beat any coach before calling him over. We recruited police officers with kids too and encouraged them to show up in uniform.

The scouts could have done most of those things.


I think any parent that is not an active participant in their child's life is setting themselves up for a potential problem. We leaders tell our potential parents that the BSA does not stand for "Baby Sitters of America".

I know many leaders that kids have age-out and are some of the finest people to have your kids learn from. As I mentioned, giving back to Scouting is a big part of the program.

Ask questions. Meet the leaders. Meet the parents. I wouldn't question a life long scout that put his kid through the program that wants to continue serving.

Find out about the one that has never been in scouting, doesn't have kids....You probably won't find any because most Troops wouldn't have a leader without a connection. Troops have autonomy over whore their leaders are.
This post was edited on 2/18/20 at 11:02 am
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
89086 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:03 am to
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Obama kicked the Boy Scouts out of schools
Why did he do this?
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This was all organized and orchestrated to destroy this wholesome organization that meant a lot to me as a teen. Don’t forget that the overwhelming majority of law suits stem from events more than 30 years ago where the perpetrators are dead and cannot defend themselves.
It has meant a ton to countless boys and men. I didn’t enjoy it as much as I would have liked to but I 100% believe in the idea of the organization.

Are you saying that bogus sexual assault lawsuits are what’s bankrupting the BSA? Where do the liberals come into play here?
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:06 am to
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What the hell is going on here?

What was that satirical headline? "Allegations of Improper Benefits at Kentucky; NCAA Puts Cleveland State on Probation"...something to that effect?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69380 posts
Posted on 2/18/20 at 11:08 am to
Obama had his department of education classify Scouting as a Christian organization (when they’re deist at best). Under separation of church and state, his DOE basically said that schools could no longer sponsor troops or offer then free meeting places. This was around 2008 or 2009. Since the schools no longer sponsored the troops, they stopped allowing troops and packs hold recruiting events.

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re you saying that bogus sexual assault lawsuits are what’s bankrupting the BSA? Where do the liberals come into play here?


The lawsuits are like the common cold that kills the AIDS patient. AIDS destroys the immune system, so it can no longer fight off common ailments. While AIDS doesn’t directly kill you, it weakens the body so something else (that you otherwise would have easily recovered from) becomes lethal.

The Obama Administration’s purposeful targeting of the BSA, cutting it off from its fundraising sources, recruitment sources, meeting places, camping sites, and using tax status to extort them into changing policies causing them to lose what support they had left resulted in a greatly weakened organization that could no longer fund legal defenses against these decades old allegations against people who died a long time ago.

The lawsuits were the final straw, but the Obama Administration mortally wounded the beast.
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