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re: Boy Crisis of 2025, Meet the ‘Boy Problem’ of the 1900s
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:26 pm to HeadCall
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:26 pm to HeadCall
I blame a lot on video games isolating kids so they don’t develop friendships and don’t have the moments where they really bond with others.
Add to that the dating process now is broken. Average Guys are getting turned down on dating apps so often it destroys their self esteem. A majority of Women are chasing after the top 5% (or less) of men and aren’t paying any attention to the average guy.
Im glad I didn’t grow up during this time. But my kids and grandkids are. And it’s really hard for them to navigate it.
Add to that the dating process now is broken. Average Guys are getting turned down on dating apps so often it destroys their self esteem. A majority of Women are chasing after the top 5% (or less) of men and aren’t paying any attention to the average guy.
Im glad I didn’t grow up during this time. But my kids and grandkids are. And it’s really hard for them to navigate it.
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:26 pm to HeadCall
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but our young men and boys have been left behind
By whom?
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and it needs to be fixed.
By whom?
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:27 pm to 4cubbies
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By whom?
In my opinion? The feminist movement. But of technology has played a big role as well.
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By whom?
Men
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:28 pm to HeadCall
Christine Hoff Sommers The War Against Boys
Is a must read
As is pretty much anything from Camille Paglia
Is a must read
As is pretty much anything from Camille Paglia
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:31 pm to HeadCall
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Unfortunately for feminists that probably means rolling back some of the “advancements” that have been made in that arena the past couple of generations.
They won't do that, so they won't fix the problem.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:33 pm to sparkinator
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Add to that the dating process now is broken. Average Guys are getting turned down on dating apps so often it destroys their self esteem. A majority of Women are chasing after the top 5% (or less) of men and aren’t paying any attention to the average guy.
Honestly, this sucks for my daughters also. Girls who aren't doing this simply can't find men at all because guys simply won't try.
Thank God for the church, as meeting someone worth talking to anywhere else simply doesn't happen anymore.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:36 pm to HeadCall
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In my opinion? The feminist movement.
That’s an interesting response.
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Men
Don’t hold your breath. Men created the problem.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:38 pm to 4cubbies
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Don’t hold your breath. Men created the problem.
No, men did not create hook up culture, the false rape claim epidemic, the destruction of male-exclusive spaces, or the end of merit-based promotions in the workplace.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:39 pm to 4cubbies
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Don’t hold your breath. Men created the problem
Agreed. By kowtowing to the feminist movement for votes. Now it’s our responsibility to fix it.
I’ve recently started substitute teaching in my off time and I umpire at the local little league. More decent men need to step and do their part.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:40 pm to concrete_tiger
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Seems like it has more to do with single parent households than Boy Scouts to me?
The "we don't have enough organizations to serve males" angle is absurd.
Males did just fine all throughout history without killing themselves and for 99% of that time there were no Boy Scouts.
But there also wasn't feminism.
And there also wasn't a societal narrative that constantly told them that they were the biggest problem in society (which is simply a symptom of feminism)
And there also in the vast majority of the cases was a complimentary two parent household (the current lack of which is another symptom of feminism).
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:40 pm to KingOrange
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Get rid of them then you solve the issue.
FIFY: Get rid of them then you solve MANY issues.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:43 pm to imjustafatkid
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men did not create hook up culture,
You cannot be serious.
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the false rape claim epidemic
What are your qualifiers for an “epidemic?”
Men shouldn’t have created the real rape epidemic, I guess.
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the destruction of male-exclusive spaces,
Blame capitalism.
quote:this is the lie mediocre men tell themselves.
or the end of merit-based promotions in the workplace.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:43 pm to HeadCall
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The feminist movement. But of technology has played a big role as well.
Technology just accelerated what feminism was designed to do.
The goal of feminism from the first wave—long before the internet, before the pill, before legal abortion—was to dismantle the traditional nuclear family, and it has mostly succeeded.
This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:45 pm to 4cubbies
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You cannot be serious.
Of course he's serious.
Females have always been the gatekeepers for sex.
Hook-up culture came about specifically because feminism taught them to that they should be just like men.
Just like gay culture. Gay male couples have the most sex and are the most promiscuous. By far.
Teach women to act like men and you get hook-up culture. The men's behavior didn't change. The women's did.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:48 pm to wackatimesthree
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The men's behavior didn't change. The women's did.
Women created hook up culture by following the men’s lead in creating hook up culture? Makes perfect sense.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:48 pm to HeadCall
Everything from US educational system etc is based upon serving girls
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:48 pm to 4cubbies
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Nope. Birth control and abortion created hookup culture.
There has never been a real rape epidemic in western society.
Partially true. Women drive our consumer driven market so companies cater to their materialism.
It’s also what every mediocre woman has told themselves while whining about a glass ceiling or unequal opportunities.
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You cannot be serious.
Nope. Birth control and abortion created hookup culture.
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What are your qualifiers for an “epidemic?” Men shouldn’t have created the real rape epidemic, I guess.
There has never been a real rape epidemic in western society.
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Blame capitalism.
Partially true. Women drive our consumer driven market so companies cater to their materialism.
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this is the lie mediocre men tell themselves.
It’s also what every mediocre woman has told themselves while whining about a glass ceiling or unequal opportunities.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:50 pm to HeadCall
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Agreed. By kowtowing to the feminist movement for votes.
I think there's more to it than that.
Men mistreated women. Men created the motivation for women to abandon their Biblical role in the family because we abused our Biblical role.
Men are to love their wives, wives are to obey their husbands, children are to honor their parents and parents are to not provoke their children.
Everyone has their instructions and men are supposed to be the head of the family. Everything downstream from men suffered because men didn't do our job correctly.
When you're the head of the organization and the organization falls apart, the buck has to stop with you. Otherwise you don't deserve to be at the head of the table.
Now, none of that means that feminism isn't 100% responsible for all of this, but we created the conditions that led to the discontent that motivated women to want to leave the family.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:51 pm to wackatimesthree
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Everyone has their instructions and men are supposed to be the head of the family. Everything downstream from men suffered because men didn't do our job correctly. When you're the head of the organization and the organization falls apart, the buck has to stop with you. Otherwise you don't deserve to be at the head of the table. Now, none of that means that feminism isn't 100% responsible for all of this, but we created the conditions that led to the discontent that motivated women to want to leave the family.
Don’t look know, but you’re basically saying g we need to put women where they belong.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:52 pm to 4cubbies
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You cannot be serious.
100%. Hookup culture is a completely female-driven phenomenon.
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Men shouldn’t have created the real rape epidemic, I guess.
No such thing.
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Blame capitalism.
Capitalism did not destroy the Boy Scouts. You did.
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this is the lie mediocre men tell themselves
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