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re: Board's view of Glenn Beck

Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:33 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70416 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:33 am to
He's a crazy but entertaining lunatic who would be much more credible if he wasn't so prone to hyperbole and wasn't selling products based on fear. However, like a broken watch or a blind squirrel, he's right about things every once in a while. I don't listen to or watch his show but i know people who do.

Funny csb: my mom was driving across the spillway one sunday afternoon and a cop pulled her over for speeding. When he asked if he asked why she was going so fast, she said "i was excited! didn't you hear, the saints just scored a touchdown!" He said he was listening to Glenn Beck. He gave her the ticket, but she contested it in court. When the judge heard the story, he dismissed the ticket.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8154 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:36 am to
Yeah, I don't pay much attention. He brings up some good points but has a lot of thoughts that are way out there and ruins his point. He also focuses too much on religion and things that won't change - should be focusing in on where we can make an impact.

Just my opinion
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:37 am to
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to me Peter Schiff is the best in the biz. I also like red eye folks.



I like both of those too.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49394 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:42 am to
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what makes him not a libertarian? he seems to have pretty libertarian views.


Just off the top of my head, his view of the Establishment Clause doesn't fall in line with typical Libertarian views.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:43 am to
Beck is doing the work many on this board are calling for "someone" to do. He's a bit much as times but I appreciate him for his tireless efforts.

His exposure to their participation in the Obama administration got a couple of communists removed from the WH.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95578 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:44 am to
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I used to listen to his show on the radio.


He comes across better on the radio and was more entertaining in that format. His television show on CNN/FOX was hit and miss, and I was only a sporadic viewer, at best - he is more than just a little crazy, but that doesn't mean he is always wrong.

I haven't caught him at all, television wise, since he struck out on his own - and that's been almost 3 years now.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:52 am to
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Just off the top of my head, his view of the Establishment Clause doesn't fall in line with typical Libertarian views.



quote:

For the record, this is called the "Establishment Clause." Now, why is it called the Establishment Clause? Well, it's in the First Amendment. The Establishment Clause — and this is what it says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." That's it.

Congress shall make no law — it's simple, not "You shall not pray in public," or, "The people shall never refer to God within 700 feet of government property," or "You'll never ever — we promise — you'll never be offended by a manger scene." No. No.

What it says is "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion." What does that even mean? You have to go back to the time period, England. What had happened in England? Why was the Black Robe Regiment so important in the Revolutionary War?

Because people were going to church — but Whitefield made an impression on people because he rejected the church of the government, the Church of England. He said, "This isn't about God. God needs to be between you two, God and you. The state has no place in that."

England had a state church. It went more than just the Church of England. You had to pay tithe. Well, that was a tax there. There wasn't any opportunity to worship as you chose. That's why Whitefield didn't go preach in the churches. He had to do it out in the fields.

And that's where our founders were trying to guard against. They knew what would happen when a state said, "Hey, wait a minute. We have these people who will listen to anything because they're stupid, I guess. And they'll just listen to whatever their pastor says. So, if we can just co- op the state, then we can get them to do anything." That's what they were guarding against — almost like what's happening with social justice and the progressives.


--Glenn Beck

i don't see the problem
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 9:53 am
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:52 am to
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He is so dramatic about every issue he supports.



Fair assessment.



I love passion from people who love what they do. I never had huge issues from things he says because I believe I would rather be cautious by following an over conservative view, than sit back and follow an overly liberal view. Too far right can be altered, too far left and most times it can never be undone because it involves people who have now become dependent on those liberal actions.

That is THE reason I am conservative...if I'm wrong, I can fix it easily.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63261 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:57 am to
Generally, don't care for his schtick.

But I will note his media company... Is the model for the future. And it's making a lot of money.

Secondly, very soon after Obama was elected, Beck accused of wanting to make Congress irrelevant by circumventing them. Five years later Obama is talking about his pens and his cell phone. He was right.

Certainly doesn't mean he's right about everything by any means, though.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 9:57 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26608 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 9:59 am to
His radio program is hilarious but I hated him on Fox.

I don't care for him personally, but his network has a better news program than the broadcast networks. .....probably because he's not in it (Real News is the name of the program).

I urge you to give it a try if you have not seen it, and want more coverage of international issues anod less bias than the cable networks. A small program like that won't have a camera on the ground everywhere, but they do report it. Don't dismiss it as partisan bias because it happens to be on Glenn Beck's network....which had more subscribers than CNN had viewers in 2013.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:01 am to
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His radio program is hilarious


the few times i listened to it he had me cracking up. he was doing Al Gore impressions
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138890 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:03 am to
I have an Earth-shattering, game-changing opinion of Glenn Beck that will make you rethink your existence here on this planet.

And I'll tell you that opinion at 9:00 am on Monday morning. Tune into the PT Board, you won't want to miss it.
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
24684 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:04 am to
Mentally unstable . . . for real. His program is entertaining though.
This post was edited on 3/19/14 at 10:04 am
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49394 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:04 am to
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i don't see the problem


Beck should take the time to study Madison's writings regarding the Establishment Clause.

And he puts forth strawmen problems that don't actually exist. For instance, there is no prohibition against a person praying in public. There is no prohibition against saying God within 700 feet of a government building and the law doesn't protect people from being a offended by a manger scene.

Beck is either incredibly ignorant or incredibly dishonest when it comes to the Establishment Clause. And in either case, most Libertarians would probably disagree with his views.
Posted by wilfont
Gulfport, MS on a Jet Ski
Member since Apr 2007
14860 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:14 am to
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I have an Earth-shattering, game-changing opinion of Glenn Beck that will make you rethink your existence here on this planet. And I'll tell you that opinion at 9:00 am on Monday morning. Tune into the PT Board, you won't want to miss it.


Well played

My enjoyment of Beck slightly outweighs the negatives.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:15 am to
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And he puts forth strawmen problems that don't actually exist. For instance, there is no prohibition against a person praying in public. There is no prohibition against saying God within 700 feet of a government building and the law doesn't protect people from being a offended by a manger scene.


i think you're missing his point
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17261 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:25 am to
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Bi-polar and ultra-paranoid.


That is another thing that really bothers me. He goes from rants on conspiracy type stuff, to somber tones and almost a whisper, to loud talking over each other. He is kind of like Dennis Miller, because he is mostly a comedian with strong political views.
Posted by PhoenixLSUTiger
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2007
1410 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:29 am to
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His exposure to their participation in the Obama administration got a couple of communists removed from the WH.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:36 am to
didn't he recently apologize for being so outlandish, or strident

I was disappoint, reminded me of the Huffington lady that used to be a conservative now wacko lib

I liked it when he made Lawrence O'Donnell cry cuz Larry said he knew lots of women who relied on planned parenthood for their health issues and Beck asked him to name one and he could not

I want him to make more libs cry
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 3/19/14 at 10:36 am to
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PhoenixLSUTiger

Roll your eyes all you like.

“I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th [1992], and then the verdicts came down on April 29th. By August, I was a communist."...... Van Jones

And there's Anita "Mao is my favorite political philosopher" Dunn. Not a self proclaimed communist like Jones but close enough for government work.

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