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re: Blackhawk pilot did not fly approved path was 1/2 mile off course & 100+ feet too high

Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:04 am to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38288 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:04 am to
quote:

DEI did this “


I can’t tell if you are saying one thing or another
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
95777 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:06 am to
Mate please post the name and the rumours. I've just spent over an hour on here and x and I need to know. Why is everybody being so coy?
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 11:07 am
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
13307 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:13 am to
I don't want to believe it's anything other than a tragic freak accident.
Let's hope that's all there was to it.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2175 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:13 am to
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100 feet in altitude and 2600 feet off course isn’t much in aviation and there is no fricking way a pilot could time that collision with a consistent speed and directional control.


100 feet in altitude and 2600 feet off course isn’t a huge deal if you’re flying a commercial plane in open airspace 35,000 feet high.

In a helicopter flying low in an urban environment errors like that can be catastrophic.

I’m not getting into the whole “who’s the pilot” deal, but it’s obvious that someone majorly screwed up.

And as for the Blackhawk pilot “not being able to time that collision? I can’t say it was purposeful, but video from different angles all show it flying directly into the plane.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
79738 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 11:17 am to
If the gps maps were accurate they just needed to hug the coast line more.

Posted by Good Times
Hill top in Tn
Member since Nov 2007
24122 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:17 pm to
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If the gps maps were accurate they just needed to hug the coast line more.



As I read this thread, I was going to post the same comment. If the helo was across the river, it jet would be at a higher altitude. Add the fact that the helo was above its restricted altitude, it compounds the problem.
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4148 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:24 pm to
ATC exists to monitor traffic and vector it safely around other traffic, weather, obstacles, and safely to the ground. Part of the reason is because it is so difficult to see other aircraft. It’s very difficult particularly at night.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3149 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Mate please post the name and the rumours. I've just spent over an hour on here and x and I need to know. Why is everybody being so coy?


Agreed, it's been non stop "I know but I won't tell" for the past 2 days.

I find it hard to believe that if that many people knew that the name would not have leaked.
Posted by RetiredSaintsLsuFan
NW Arkansas
Member since Jun 2020
2003 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:32 pm to
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Easy there Nancy Drew.. Let's hear the flight recorders first


Will these be available to us being it was a military property?
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 1:43 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38288 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:40 pm to
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Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."


Dei is a terrible idea. This is a terrible event. Small minds argue otherwise.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70963 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:42 pm to
It sounded sage when he opened his Cracker Jacks.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24936 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 12:52 pm to
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Just because you have been lied to and conspired against with some things doesn’t mean everything is a conspiracy.


I don't believe (currently) that this was anything other than an accident. But f of with "everything isn't a conspiracy crap".

You are right everything isn't a conspiracy. Sometimes things turn out to be conspiracy. When most things eventually are shown to be a conspiracy it is normal to look into other things that could be a conspiracy.

Either way someone doing this isn't a conspiracy when they did it all by their lonesome! Ya gotta have two for a conspiracy.
Posted by Hodag
Northwoods
Member since Sep 2024
1083 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:02 pm to
The 200 ft to 400 ft at impact is verified by the radar, but I have yet to see anything indicating it was 1/2 mile off course.

In fact the radar shows it flying pretty much directly above the Potomac the entire route.

Or is the Potomac so big that it could be 1/2 mile off course while still being above the East Bank? Is the Potomac 3 miles wide or something?

Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
4346 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:07 pm to
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I don't want to believe it's anything other than a tragic freak accident.


What you, or anyone else “wants” to believe isn’t important. What’s important is the truth. I want the truth. Facts.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3149 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:16 pm to
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Or is the Potomac so big that it could be 1/2 mile off course while still being above the East Bank? Is the Potomac 3 miles wide or something?

6/10ths of a mile at that point.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:33 pm to
quote:


Dei is a terrible idea. This is a terrible event


What evidence you have this was DEI related?
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
3149 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:42 pm to
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What evidence you have this was DEI related?


The President of the United States said so, as well as the Secretary of Defense.

4 months ago many people would have taken those two statements as evidence.
Posted by Goalie
Used to be San Diego now West Texas
Member since Jan 2025
557 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 1:54 pm to
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The pilot was a man, right? He was the son of someone my mom knew growing up in Mississippi.
if this was him, he transitioned to a woman 100%. If
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282540 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:02 pm to
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The President of the United States said so,


He says a hell of a lot of things he dont mean.

His "reasoning" was "common sense"
This post was edited on 2/1/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
4272 posts
Posted on 2/1/25 at 2:06 pm to
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Blackhawk pilot did not fly approved path — Helicopter was 1/2 mile off course and 100+ feet too high.


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