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re: Bill Kristol: “America First Is Dead: We Are All Globalists Now..”

Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:46 am to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:46 am to
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Yes, or write someone in. And I would vote for Newsom over Vance if forced to pick between them.


Any vote in this UniParty® charade is ultimately a vote for the left or right wing of the Deep State. Both parties support — to varying degrees — permanent Empire, endless welfare and unlimited bailouts.

This ultimately is why Trumpism — despite all it’s notable achievements — was doomed to fail. With that said, I never expected that Trump’s national security team would be wholly co-opted by the neocons.



Who Is Gen. Erik Kurilla? ‘The Gorilla’ And Hawk Leads Trump’s Iran Strategy…

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has reportedly deferred authority on the U.S. military’s involvement in the Middle East to Gen. Erik Kurilla, the U.S. Central Command chief known as “The Gorilla” who served earlier tours in Iraq and Afghanistan and an Iran hawk, who has pressed for a more aggressive response in the region.

Kurilla, a Biden appointee, has become the leading adviser on the Middle East over other Department of Defense officials, and he has held an audience with President Donald Trump more than any other general, Politico reported, citing unnamed former and current defense officials.

Hegseth has yet to turn down a request from Kurilla for more military assets in the Middle East, including new fighter planes, a person familiar with their dynamic told Politico, despite resistance to sending more weapons from Gen. Dan Caine, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Pentagon’s policy chief Elbridge Colby.

Dan Caldwell, a former adviser to Hegseth, told “Breaking Points” that Kurilla has a “fundamentally different view on the importance of the Middle East” than other officials in the Trump administration, adding Kurilla likely believes a “military campaign against Iran will not be as costly as others.”

This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 7:17 am
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:48 am to
Bill Kristol: Ron Fem-bot
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:49 am to
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Phag Pedo Kristol doesn't even know what it means to be globalist.

MAGA/AF types are showing they are having issues with the term, too.

Define "globalism" where completing the lifelong goal of John McCain and John Bolton isn't included, or, hell, go directly to the source...define it so that one of the CIA's biggest dream scenarios since 1979 plays out. The CIA has been obsessed with attacking Iran since the puppet they installed was ousted by the people in 1979. It does not get more "Deep State" or "globalist" than attacking Iran.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:57 am to
I love how you rigid frickers don't realize that each different situation is unique.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:58 am to
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I love how you rigid frickers don't realize that each different situation is unique.


So "globalism" changes its definition based on each unique situation?

sounds like it has no actual meaning, then.
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 6:59 am to
Bill hates Trump……


A lot of wish casting on bill’s part.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:00 am to
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Bill hates Trump

Pretty sure Trump made Bill very happy last night
Posted by dickkellog
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:03 am to
let me help you understand something jethrine, this is what america first looks like, you wouldn't understand you're post reagan. now get your arse out there on that corner and go make my social security biotch!
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:04 am to
The big tent coalition was fun to the extent Trump was some type of alternative to neocons. That's gone now. Enjoy your freedom fries today.
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Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:14 am to
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What was the first "We are all ____ now"?



Perhaps Milton Friedman? I know Friedman famously said “We are all Keynesians now” during the rise of the Welfare/Warfare state in the LBJ era.

Posted by Pandy Fackler
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:17 am to
"Kurilla, 59, is an Elk River, Minnesota, native who was commissioned into the U.S. Army as an infantry officer in 1988, according to CENTCOM. A West Point graduate, Kurilla was deployed to Panama in 1989, the Gulf War in 1990, and to Haiti, Bosnia and Kosovo in the 1990s. He has been awarded two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star with valor in 2005 for leading U.S. troops in Iraq. Kurilla was nominated to lead CENTCOM under President Joe Biden in 2022, after previously commanding the 82nd Airborne Division and serving as CENTCOM’s chief of staff".




frickin' lib, progressive, Marxist, commie fig libtard shitbag. I'll bet his kids have purple hair and his wife cucks him. He probably voted for Waltz. That commie infiltrator was also appointed by Joe Biden. Probably as a plant to sabotage President Trump.

The deep state never sleeps boys. Never takes PTO. Just like a gas station Indian, always on.
Posted by OccamsStubble
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:23 am to
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Yea strong military, strong foreign policy. That's the guiding light, a strong America, a great America. What's your vision, a tiny America that shrinks away from China and Russia?


An America that considers 37 T debt as more of threat than Iran. But, be it Obama or Trump or Bidet or Trump again, they ignore.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 7:59 am to
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I love how you rigid frickers don't realize that each different situation is unique.


There is one constant that is at play when it comes to these repeated interventionist policies in the Middle East. When the United States picks winners and losers in these ancient sectarian rivalries in the region, disaster has inevitably followed.

Indeed, Iran’s current Revolutionary State is in many ways a reaction and lasting legacy of past American interventionism in the region. How so?

Recommended reading: America's Great Game: The CIA's Secret Arabists and the Shaping of the Modern Middle East by Hugh Wilford. I periodically post this book review and today is as good a day as any to post it again.

This work of deep history focuses primarily on three CIA agents and their regime change efforts in three countries after WWII: Syria, Egypt and Iran. The key figure that emerges in this narrative is Kermit “Kim” Roosevelt — grandson of Theodore. Roosevelt was recruited into the newly created Central Intelligence Agency to head the Office of Policy Coordination, the espionage and counter-intelligence branch of the CIA.

A rather complicated chess game of competing powers in the newly formed CIA emerges — the Zionists vs. the anti-Zionists. And what a wicked game it was. Wilford illustrates how these agent provocateurs were very short sighted in their schemes and largely viewed the indigenous populations of the Middle Eastern nations as simple pawns in a larger chess game between the Great Powers.

These CIA wunderkinds with blue-blood pedigrees viewed the nation states in the post-colonial era as blank slates to be shaped at will by their supposed knowledge and intellect. Yet rather than fundamentally transform power relations in the Middle East to pro-American sentiment as promised, this spy clique of the Eastern Establishment inculcated a residual and generational resentment toward American meddling in the region that is still evident today.

Along with Roosevelt, Miles Copeland — a Birmingham Alabama native and the father of the famed rock musician Stewart — is another CIA spook who was instrumental in shaping the Middle Eastern landscape after the end of WWII. Copeland helped orchestrate the first CIA military coup in the region: a 1949 bloodless putsch in Syria. The CIA installed Husni al-Za’im, a former Kurdish officer in the Ottoman Army.

Kim Roosevelt, along with assistance from his cousin Archibald Roosevelt, in turn masterminded the 1953 Iranian coup d'état which toppled nationalist prime minister Mohammed Mosaddeqh after Mosaddeqh nationalized the petroleum industry in Iran.

Archibald Roosevelt in turn orchestrated a second 1956 regime change operation in Syria after a violent counter-coup displaced the al-Za’im regime. This second regime change operation in Syria and the ensuing instability ultimately helped push Syria closer to the USSR.

This was a repeated pattern. The CIA’s initial backing of Egyptian General Mohamed Naguib — and his young protege General Gamal Abdel Nasser — likewise backfired when Nasser ousted his elder benefactor, turned his back on the West and nationalized the Suez Canal.

As a tweak to the West, Nasser also opened diplomatic channels to the Soviet Union and supported the creation of a socialist pan-Arabic State. And of course, we all know the results of the festering resentment over the installation of the Shah that ultimately resulted in the Iranian revolution.

Whether it was braggadocio, naïveté or misplaced idealism, the failures of these nation building efforts shaped the modern Middle East that we know today. Sadly, this “game” continues anew. The same doublespeak and false promises spew forth from the mouths of these Masters of the Universe types in our corrupt national security apparatus.

Perhaps it was possible at one time to posit that the chaos and violent fury released upon the region after the Iraq War was an unforeseen contingency. Yet we have now seen a succession of four Middle Eastern nations — Iraq, Libya, Yemen and now Syria — engulfed in violence and human catastrophe after US, NATO and Western military intervention. And now these Masters of the Universe want a war with Iran?

Not coincidentally, each of these repeated military interventions have been followed by a staggering refugee wave headed for Europe. Yet in the name of pluralism, Western nations are sternly lectured by many of these same ruling elites that it must open their borders to a deluge of immigrants whose values are wholly alien to pluralistic societies and must instead welcome these immigrants though many have demonstrated violent antagonism toward free societies?

At this late stage, naïveté can’t be blamed for these repeated failures. It is indeed sheer madness to claim the situation in the Middle East is all an unforeseen accident. The pattern is established and is crystal clear for anyone who doesn’t regurgitate Deep State talking points. The minute details and the exact coordination of the plan becomes irrelevant when the larger pattern is so clear: chaos — the more violent the better — is the goal of these repeated regime change operations.

We can’t change the past. But must we be doomed to repeat it? Endlessly on a loop?





This post was edited on 6/22/25 at 8:00 am
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:24 am to
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let me help you understand something jethrine, this is what america first looks like, you wouldn't understand you're post reagan.


Printing money to buy bombs to drop on foreign countries in wars that are between other countries doesn’t put America First, it fricks the people who voted for America First by inflating the currency they earn
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:26 am to
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Pandy Fackler


Hail Caesar!
Posted by cornerstore
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:43 am to
That guy is a bottom
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:46 am to
Sad what MAGA has become

And they are proud to be globalist, warmongering, Deep Staters.

Just as long as it is a republican that is the globalist, warmongering, Deep Staters.

Trump went from right wing Populist, to John McCain in 6 months
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:48 am to
We've all been globalists a long time.

MAGA is just waking up to the fact they are no different.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:50 am to
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We've all been globalists a long time.

MAGA is just waking up to the fact they are no different.
I was hoping

I had hoped

Ahh well. We have Bush again
Posted by LSUBALLER
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Posted on 6/22/25 at 8:51 am to
If you said it then it’s gospel.
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