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Bill HR 1 will make all states follow Federal guidelines on how they conduct elections
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:17 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:17 am
Here are two things the Feds will demand of each state
So no one will ever have to produce an ID to vote in any state, and there can never be any validation of signatures of any mail in ballot submitted.
What could go wrong?
So no one will ever have to produce an ID to vote in any state, and there can never be any validation of signatures of any mail in ballot submitted.
What could go wrong?
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Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:21 am to Revelator
Should read the rest of the bill..
Mandatory online, same day registration in all states. Registered when you get a driver's license. Minors allowed to register (though they can't vote until 18)
Also neuters most states ability to purge voter rolls of dead people
GOP will never win again and it serves them right
Mandatory online, same day registration in all states. Registered when you get a driver's license. Minors allowed to register (though they can't vote until 18)
Also neuters most states ability to purge voter rolls of dead people
GOP will never win again and it serves them right
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 1:23 am
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:23 am to jmcwhrter
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GOP will never win again
No they will not.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:23 am to Revelator
This looks like one of those "well, we tried" bills, but it makes no sense in the aftermath of that Brady Bill lawsuit back in the 90s.
Funny thing is that the cheerleaders of Texas' lawsuit against PA are the same people who are gonna be against this thing, and vice versa.
It'd be great to have a set of national standards for voting that would allow as many people as possible access to having their votes submitted, but the Constitution doesn't agree.
Funny thing is that the cheerleaders of Texas' lawsuit against PA are the same people who are gonna be against this thing, and vice versa.
It'd be great to have a set of national standards for voting that would allow as many people as possible access to having their votes submitted, but the Constitution doesn't agree.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:24 am to Revelator
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No they will not.
I'll say this ... neither party wants full control
You can't raise campaign money with "lets keep piling it on!"
You need an adversary that you have to stop to save the moral soul of the country
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:26 am to GregoryD
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It'd be great to have a set of national standards for voting that would allow as many people as possible access to having their votes submitted, but the Constitution doesn't agree.
Don't you mean allow as many legal adult citizens as possible...
And what part of the Constitution doesn't allow legal adult citizens able to vote?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:31 am to CorchJay
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Don't you mean allow as many legal adult citizens as possible...
And what part of the Constitution doesn't allow legal adult citizens able to vote?
I think legal voters should be able to submit a ballot in whatever way they can. The whole thing about having to show up at a specific location on a specific day is just silly with the type of technology we currently have. Creating a system that allows for ballots to be scanned with a unique identifier per voter is seriously an undergraduate level project.
The part about the Constitution is about this bill's attempt at creating those national standards. Just like everything else we just watched in the last election, those particular standards are left up to state legislatures.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:34 am to GregoryD
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The whole thing about having to show up at a specific location on a specific day is just silly with the type of technology we currently have.
Most countries around the world have the same technology, yet don’t allow mail in voting for the very fact that it’s easier to commit fraud that way.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:34 am to Revelator
Remember when the "conservatives" on this board, a couple of months ago, were screaming about the need for federal voting guidelines?
This is what happens when you open Pandora's box. You gave these idiots new ideas, and they, unlike you, have the ability to actually implement them.
This is what happens when you open Pandora's box. You gave these idiots new ideas, and they, unlike you, have the ability to actually implement them.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:36 am to jmcwhrter
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I'll say this ... neither party wants full control
You can't raise campaign money with "lets keep piling it on!"
You need an adversary that you have to stop to save the moral soul of the country
Maybe that was true some time ago. But we’re not dealing with classical liberals. These are totalitarians and control is what drives them. It is their fantasy and this is their time to make their fantasy come true. There is no need to fund raise when you have no competition. I agree with your last point for sure. But once a tyrant has full power the more important adversary tends to become other nations. All while simultaneously squashing any domestic enemy of the state. Which would be us and some other nation(s).
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:38 am to GregoryD
oh so you're saying you're good with how crystal clear the last election was.
We are the United States of America for a reason. States rights my friend. No state disallows legal voters the right to vote. The federal government has screwed up everything it's touched so you want it to handle the voting as well.
Maybe you should let them manage your 401K... or possibly your paycheck as well. Just put them in charge of everything huh? What could go wrong
We are the United States of America for a reason. States rights my friend. No state disallows legal voters the right to vote. The federal government has screwed up everything it's touched so you want it to handle the voting as well.
Maybe you should let them manage your 401K... or possibly your paycheck as well. Just put them in charge of everything huh? What could go wrong
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:40 am to LSUFanHouston
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Remember when the "conservatives" on this board, a couple of months ago, were screaming about the need for federal voting guidelines?
I’d be fine with unilateral voting regulations stipulated by the Fed if those regulations were meant to make voting more secure, accurate and honest.
This legislation does none of those things.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:43 am to Revelator
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I’d be fine with unilateral voting regulations stipulated by the Fed if those regulations were meant to make voting more secure, accurate and honest.
This legislation does none of those things.
When has Fed Govt regulation made something better, not worse?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:45 am to Figgy
theyre moving that way, but theyre not there yet
Pelosi and Schumer have no interest in torching our government and ruining their cash cow..
The bigger concern is AOC, Talib, etc and how they keep picking off seats
Pelosi and Schumer have no interest in torching our government and ruining their cash cow..
The bigger concern is AOC, Talib, etc and how they keep picking off seats
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:48 am to jmcwhrter
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The bigger concern is AOC, Talib, etc and how they keep picking off seats
This. Unfortunately they are the future of the party and likely represent a majority of voters in the future. That’s what scares the hell out of me.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:50 am to LSUFanHouston
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When has Fed Govt regulation made something better, not worse?
I understand your sentiment and agree in part, but I feel a presidential election should be conducted in a consistent manner in each state. And when I say consistent, it’s as I stated previously, the law should be worded to make elections more valid and not less.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:52 am to jmcwhrter
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GOP will never win again and it serves them right
This is what happens when you play nice in the most contingent, winner-take-all election in the history of this country.
At least Trump is gone though amirite?
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:53 am to jmcwhrter
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neither party wants full control
Truth is there is only one. But since they are legalizing cheating they wont even need to cheat anymore.
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:58 am to Revelator
I’m not one to push it but we’d have to secede if they passed that. Literally no other option
Posted on 1/26/21 at 1:59 am to jmcwhrter
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neither party wants full control
I don’t agree with this.
Yes, Republicans might not mind if they are in the minority because it gives them excuses for not doing anything, but the Dems are authoritarians and want all the power they can get. They know that even if they screw up, they’ll never be made to answer for their actions.
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