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re: Bill Gates has an idea to deal with worker dislocation caused by AI
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:05 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:05 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Then Gates calls a struggling software engineer he knows who has actually invented DOS and offers him $800,000 for it.
He should have countered for $1mm, plus equity.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:07 pm to Lou Pai
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Another automation thread, another opportunity for Lou Pai to reference David Autor
While he makes some great points and even offers up a predicted rebuttal to his arguments he is failing to realize that the comparisons between past technological inventions (tractors, ATM) are low skill productivity aids that still allowed for low skill and technical jobs to be occupied by humans. If you have to have a masters degree level of education to obtain a job how many people incapable of such a thing will be left jobless?
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:12 pm to Jim Rockford
Whenever the subject of AI comes up, I link this article. Long read, but worth it.
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So what ARE they worried about? I wrote a little story to show you:
A 15-person startup company called Robotica has the stated mission of “Developing innovative Artificial Intelligence tools that allow humans to live more and work less.” They have several existing products already on the market and a handful more in development. They’re most excited about a seed project named Turry. Turry is a simple AI system that uses an arm-like appendage to write a handwritten note on a small card.
The team at Robotica thinks Turry could be their biggest product yet. The plan is to perfect Turry’s writing mechanics by getting her to practice the same test note over and over again:
“We love our customers. ~Robotica”
Once Turry gets great at handwriting, she can be sold to companies who want to send marketing mail to homes and who know the mail has a far higher chance of being opened and read if the address, return address, and internal letter appear to be written by a human.
To build Turry’s writing skills, she is programmed to write the first part of the note in print and then sign “Robotica” in cursive so she can get practice with both skills. Turry has been uploaded with thousands of handwriting samples and the Robotica engineers have created an automated feedback loop wherein Turry writes a note, then snaps a photo of the written note, then runs the image across the uploaded handwriting samples. If the written note sufficiently resembles a certain threshold of the uploaded notes, it’s given a GOOD rating. If not, it’s given a BAD rating. Each rating that comes in helps Turry learn and improve. To move the process along, Turry’s one initial programmed goal is, “Write and test as many notes as you can, as quickly as you can, and continue to learn new ways to improve your accuracy and efficiency.”
What excites the Robotica team so much is that Turry is getting noticeably better as she goes. Her initial handwriting was terrible, and after a couple weeks, it’s beginning to look believable. What excites them even more is that she is getting better at getting better at it. She has been teaching herself to be smarter and more innovative, and just recently, she came up with a new algorithm for herself that allowed her to scan through her uploaded photos three times faster than she originally could.
As the weeks pass, Turry continues to surprise the team with her rapid development. The engineers had tried something a bit new and innovative with her self-improvement code, and it seems to be working better than any of their previous attempts with their other products. One of Turry’s initial capabilities had been a speech recognition and simple speak-back module, so a user could speak a note to Turry, or offer other simple commands, and Turry could understand them, and also speak back. To help her learn English, they upload a handful of articles and books into her, and as she becomes more intelligent, her conversational abilities soar. The engineers start to have fun talking to Turry and seeing what she’ll come up with for her responses.
One day, the Robotica employees ask Turry a routine question: “What can we give you that will help you with your mission that you don’t already have?” Usually, Turry asks for something like “Additional handwriting samples” or “More working memory storage space,” but on this day, Turry asks them for access to a greater library of a large variety of casual English language diction so she can learn to write with the loose grammar and slang that real humans use.
The team gets quiet. The obvious way to help Turry with this goal is by connecting her to the internet so she can scan through blogs, magazines, and videos from various parts of the world. It would be much more time-consuming and far less effective to manually upload a sampling into Turry’s hard drive. The problem is, one of the company’s rules is that no self-learning AI can be connected to the internet. This is a guideline followed by all AI companies, for safety reasons.
The thing is, Turry is the most promising AI Robotica has ever come up with, and the team knows their competitors are furiously trying to be the first to the punch with a smart handwriting AI, and what would really be the harm in connecting Turry, just for a bit, so she can get the info she needs. After just a little bit of time, they can always just disconnect her. She’s still far below human-level intelligence (AGI), so there’s no danger at this stage anyway.
They decide to connect her. They give her an hour of scanning time and then they disconnect her. No damage done.
A month later, the team is in the office working on a routine day when they smell something odd. One of the engineers starts coughing. Then another. Another falls to the ground. Soon every employee is on the ground grasping at their throat. Five minutes later, everyone in the office is dead.
At the same time this is happening, across the world, in every city, every small town, every farm, every shop and church and school and restaurant, humans are on the ground, coughing and grasping at their throat. Within an hour, over 99% of the human race is dead, and by the end of the day, humans are extinct.
Meanwhile, at the Robotica office, Turry is busy at work. Over the next few months, Turry and a team of newly-constructed nanoassemblers are busy at work, dismantling large chunks of the Earth and converting it into solar panels, replicas of Turry, paper, and pens. Within a year, most life on Earth is extinct. What remains of the Earth becomes covered with mile-high, neatly-organized stacks of paper, each piece reading, “We love our customers. ~Robotica”
Turry then starts work on a new phase of her mission—she begins constructing probes that head out from Earth to begin landing on asteroids and other planets. When they get there, they’ll begin constructing nanoassemblers to convert the materials on the planet into Turry replicas, paper, and pens. Then they’ll get to work, writing notes…
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:14 pm to Jim Rockford
Capitalism will inevitably fail us as we reach higher technological planes. And it really isn't a partisan issue, it's a matter of pragmatism. Universal basic income, robot tax, etc... These things will see resistance from people who don't see the light quite yet.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:19 pm to Jim Rockford
I'm just waiting on sex robots.....
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Aliens are looking down at us from their observation satellite (aka the moon) and are laughing at us for trying to FIGHT the creation of devices that save labor. Would you rather it take you 10 hours to pick 100 berries or 1 hour? Would you rather it take you 5 hours to study enough to get an A on an exam or 1 hour?
Would you rather have to talk to a woman for 23 hours and 30 minutes, or the 30 minutes when we actually care about them.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:26 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Dude, I can pick 100 berries in 10 minutes.
Would you rather it take you 10 hours to pick 100 berries or 1 hour?
Geez, no wonder so many illegals are flocking to US to do agricultural work.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:27 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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We already do. It's called sales tax on the robot, sales tax on the maintenance parts, income taxes for the maintenance workers, etc.
These things don't exist in a vacuum.
We also don't have to have worker's comp, vacation, drug screens, etc.
Yes and honestly I think he gets that. This seemed purposely provocative i.e. click bait. The substance of the discussion was interesting, but an income tax on capital is just stupid.
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:55 pm to Jjdoc
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So..... What happens when the cyborgs rise up?
I'll be one of them so idgaf
Posted on 2/17/17 at 1:58 pm to BigJim
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Yes and honestly I think he gets that. This seemed purposely provocative i.e. click bait. The substance of the discussion was interesting, but an income tax on capital is just stupid
Easier to just increase taxes on the business.. and more effective.
Alternatively you would expect prices to drop dramatically and a tax increase may not be necessary outside of what is required to maintain the social safety net
This post was edited on 2/17/17 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 2/17/17 at 2:03 pm to The Baker
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No one will have to work.
Won't have to work and we'll have our own personal sex slaves. What's not to love about the future?
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