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re: "Big Beautiful Bill" Disaster for America. GOP has failed us. (Redacted & Massie explain)

Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37350 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 4:58 pm to
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The government hands out stimulus payments every spring.
Come on, man. This is peak inconsistency.

Do you like government handouts? Because if you don’t, you can’t turn around and use one handout to justify adding another one. That’s the same logic as arguing SNAP should be doubled by going out twice a month because it already goes out once. I’m guessing you wouldn’t accept that argument for five seconds.

If it only works one way it's not logic. It’s just an argument from inconsistency. If you want to defend the policy, defend it, but don’t base your argument on points that shift based on who’s holding the pen.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13389 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:07 pm to
The problem with spending is ALL Americans, You, me, all of us demand 100 dollars of service for 60 dollars of taxes.

We vote to spend much, tax less, and borrow the difference.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38206 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:08 pm to
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You missed the part about the amount of money tariffs will bring in to our country. You people always seem to forget this
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5602 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 5:09 pm to
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In reality, can Republicans ever get spending cuts passed?


They had cuts to discretionary spending for 2024 and 2025. Mike Johnson and those he takes orders from chose not to take them.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
447 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 6:35 pm to
Good list.

Spewing insults is easy. Discussing the topic is hard.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
62435 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 8:13 pm to
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They had cuts to discretionary spending for 2024 and 2025. Mike Johnson and those he takes orders from chose not to take them.
Hell of a thread bump.

I remember when TWS people believed, and told us all, there would be "recission bills" coming throughout the summer and included in a trimmed new budget in the fall. Here we are. CR passed and recission bills? Nah.
This post was edited on 11/17/25 at 8:14 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
13651 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 9:59 pm to
Redacted is a clown show on the lam Clayton Morris now in Portugal and have obviously been on the Putin take for a few years now.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
35793 posts
Posted on 11/17/25 at 10:22 pm to
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The problem with spending is ALL Americans, You, me, all of us demand 100 dollars of service for 60 dollars of taxes.

We vote to spend much, tax less, and borrow the difference.


Hold up. Not all of us.

Furthermore, what Americans actually get is about $30 of service for every $100 they pay.

What I want more than anything is an honest monetary system.


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