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Biden Is Unilaterally Funding Ukraine Through U.S. Army Operations Appropriations
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:32 am
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:32 am
Army Operations Funds Are Being Used to Support Ukraine
I personally support funding Ukraine through a joint/coalition approach that deters future Russian aggression against NATO.
But it should be passed through bi-partisan legislation, not a unilateral move by the executive.
As commander-in-chief, Biden is telling the Army to use their personal operations and maintenance budget to support Ukraine.
Some might say this is in effect illegal because Congress controls the purse and this appropriation was passed to be used only by the Army. The problem is the appropriations for operations and maintenance funds are so broad in the annual NDAA that I’m sure the executive got a legal opinion that it couldn’t likely be challenged.
Maybe this isn’t concerning, since one way to look at it is the Army is also getting the added benefit of training themselves?
I personally support funding Ukraine through a joint/coalition approach that deters future Russian aggression against NATO.
But it should be passed through bi-partisan legislation, not a unilateral move by the executive.
As commander-in-chief, Biden is telling the Army to use their personal operations and maintenance budget to support Ukraine.
Some might say this is in effect illegal because Congress controls the purse and this appropriation was passed to be used only by the Army. The problem is the appropriations for operations and maintenance funds are so broad in the annual NDAA that I’m sure the executive got a legal opinion that it couldn’t likely be challenged.
Maybe this isn’t concerning, since one way to look at it is the Army is also getting the added benefit of training themselves?
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Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:36 am to RFK
When people are not held to account, they are unaccountable.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:38 am to RFK
How about we fund NOTHING while our own borders are a turnstile and then AFTER they're closed we still don't send money to corrupt foreign countries.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:39 am to RFK
quote:
I personally support funding Ukraine
Stopped right there. Holy hell the stupidity.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:41 am to RFK
Wasn’t Trump funding some of the wall from DoD funds and a judge said he could not?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:45 am to RFK
Why can’t Europe fund the thing? They have the money and it’s in their yard.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:51 am to RFK
quote:
I personally support funding Ukraine through a joint/coalition approach that deters future Russian aggression against NATO
What $amt are you contributing on a weekly/monthly/annual basis from personal monies?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:55 am to udtiger
quote:
When people are not held to account, they are unaccountable.
Ukraine is holding him accountable. If he doesn't pay them, all the skeletons in the closet will be revealed.
Blackmail 101.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:58 am to RFK
quote:How fricking stupid are you dude.
I personally support funding Ukraine through a joint/coalition approach that deters future Russian aggression against NATO.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:59 am to GeauxGutsy
quote:I pay tens of thousands in taxes every year. I am entitled to an opinion on how those taxes are spent.
What $amt are you contributing on a weekly/monthly/annual basis from personal monies?
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:09 am to RFK
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that deters future Russian aggression against NATO.
D.C. controlled Nato dinnindonuffin. Usa just minding its own business building bases of non aggression all over the world.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 7:50 am
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:29 am to RFK
Just do like Fani Willis and use cash. They are all crooks and don’t follow any laws or rules when it comes to getting what they want. Just a bunch of thugs with suits on.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:47 am to RFK
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I pay tens of thousands in taxes every year.
Elementary deflection
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:50 am to RFK
Draining national defense funding to pay for another country’s war without approval falls under treason. Doubly so if we end up attacked and can’t respond because the cupboard is bare over this.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:55 am to The Maj
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Wasn’t Trump funding some of the wall from DoD funds and a judge said he could not?
This is (D)ifferent.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:56 am to RFK
LINK
If Republicans continue to block U.S. military aid to Ukraine, the White House could turn to an ally to provide Kyiv with ATACM missiles capable of striking Russian-held Crimea.
MUNICH — After months of requests from Ukrainian officials, the Biden administration is working toward providing Ukraine with powerful new long-range ballistic missiles, according to two U.S. officials.
Late last year, the U.S. began to supply Ukraine with Army Tactical Missile Systems, known as ATACMS, but so far it has provided only the older medium-range ATACMS. Now, the U.S. is leaning toward sending the longer-range version of the missile, the officials said, which would allow Ukraine to strike farther inside the Russian-held Crimean Peninsula.
But U.S. funding for arms shipments to Ukraine remains uncertain because of opposition from former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies in Congress. Last week the Senate passed a $95 billion foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. But it’s not clear whether or when the GOP-controlled House will vote on the measure or whether it would survive the vote.
For months, pro-Trump Republicans have said they will approve U.S. military aid to Ukraine only if the Biden administration agrees to a package of GOP immigration and border security measures. Trump and his House and Senate allies this month rejected a bipartisan border security and immigration compromise negotiated by Republicans and Democrats in the Senate.
Defense officials told NBC News that the U.S. has a limited inventory of ATACMS and that it is not likely to send them to Ukraine without money to replenish U.S. stockpiles.
If Congress approves more funding for Ukraine, the U.S. could include the long-range ATACMS in one of the first packages of military aid paid for with that money, according to the two U.S. officials. The U.S. also has ammunition and artillery ready to send to Ukraine immediately if the funding is approved, the officials added.
The officials did not rule out asking allies to provide the missiles to Ukraine, as well, and replenishing their ATACM stockpiles.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
If Republicans continue to block U.S. military aid to Ukraine, the White House could turn to an ally to provide Kyiv with ATACM missiles capable of striking Russian-held Crimea.
MUNICH — After months of requests from Ukrainian officials, the Biden administration is working toward providing Ukraine with powerful new long-range ballistic missiles, according to two U.S. officials.
Late last year, the U.S. began to supply Ukraine with Army Tactical Missile Systems, known as ATACMS, but so far it has provided only the older medium-range ATACMS. Now, the U.S. is leaning toward sending the longer-range version of the missile, the officials said, which would allow Ukraine to strike farther inside the Russian-held Crimean Peninsula.
But U.S. funding for arms shipments to Ukraine remains uncertain because of opposition from former President Donald Trump and his Republican allies in Congress. Last week the Senate passed a $95 billion foreign aid package for Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan. But it’s not clear whether or when the GOP-controlled House will vote on the measure or whether it would survive the vote.
For months, pro-Trump Republicans have said they will approve U.S. military aid to Ukraine only if the Biden administration agrees to a package of GOP immigration and border security measures. Trump and his House and Senate allies this month rejected a bipartisan border security and immigration compromise negotiated by Republicans and Democrats in the Senate.
Defense officials told NBC News that the U.S. has a limited inventory of ATACMS and that it is not likely to send them to Ukraine without money to replenish U.S. stockpiles.
If Congress approves more funding for Ukraine, the U.S. could include the long-range ATACMS in one of the first packages of military aid paid for with that money, according to the two U.S. officials. The U.S. also has ammunition and artillery ready to send to Ukraine immediately if the funding is approved, the officials added.
The officials did not rule out asking allies to provide the missiles to Ukraine, as well, and replenishing their ATACM stockpiles.
The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:57 am to RFK
quote:
Biden Is Unilaterally Funding Ukraine Through U.S. Army Operations Appropriations
So now Joe is getting his kickbacks directly thru the DoD.
Shameless.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:58 am to cajunangelle
Why the frick are we sending LRBMs there? They need to be able to hit Donbas, not Moscow.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:01 am to teke184
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Why the frick are we sending LRBMs there? They need to be able to hit Donbas, not Moscow.
Methinks you underestimate how badly TPTB frickers are wanting to escalate this thing.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:02 am to BayouBaw84
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Just do like Fani Willis and use cash.
Joe and Obama already gave all the cash to Iran.
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