re: Biblical Solutions that we use to honor and would solve alot of problems

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Totally false, not that it matters in the context of this thread. There is no evidence to suggest they copied off of each other. None.

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No, it is just that you have never researched the topic or you are willfully ignoring the evidence - resulting in your ignorance.

How editorial fatigue shows Matthew and Luke copied Mark

But you don’t have to read scholarship, if you’d only just read the gospels you’d have figured it out on your own. Why else would there be word for word copying - in Greek?

But don’t take my word for it. Take the writer of Luke’s own words from chapter 1:

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1Inasmuch as many have undertaken to compile a narrative of the things that have been accomplished among us, 2just as those who from the beginning were eyewitnesses and ministers of the word have delivered them to us, 3it seemed good to me also, having followed all things closely for some time past, to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4that you may have certainty concerning the things you have been taught.

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Luke is outright stating there are “many” gospel accounts before his and that they were delivered to “us” and that he specifically is NOT an eyewitness to any of these alleged events.

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The point of this (if there was a gate or not, a rope or not) is not lost and it's meaning is the same.

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Agreed, it is impossible for someone like you who hasn’t given away all their possessions and lived like a vagabond to enter heaven. Do you have a savings, a home, a 401(k)? Then you are the rich man Jesus was talking about.

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"Eye of a Needle" has been used through out time. Even to Koran mentions the "eye of a Needle".

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Except that in Mark, Matthew, and Luke, a different Greek word was used for “needle”.

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Did Mark and his brethren copy the Koran?

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Mark most likely copied the original gospel widely distributed as the “Evangelikon” by Markion of Sinope who compiled the first Christian Bible. The other part of Markion’s Bible was called the “Apostolikon” and was basically the undisputed epistles of Paul plus Colossians and Ephesians (though it was not called Ephesians). Markion’s gospel is all but lost except for a boatload of writings of the early church fathers and it was quoted so much that it can basically be reconstructed. The Evangelikon was just an earlier version of Luke (that Markion specifically claimed to NOT have written though no one knows for sure). Mark revised the Evangelikon and started spreading his own version. Matthew revised Mark and began to circulate his version. Luke revised the Evangelikon but in doing so added some material from Mark and Matthew.

And by the way, Matthew, Mark, and Luke were just the names assigned to the different versions of the Gospels that they had to accept as divinely inspired in order to unite the groups of churches using each version under their authority in Rome.

None of the gospels we have were written by people who claimed firsthand to be an eyewitness. The only written words in the entire Bible that were a first person eyewitness claim was of Paul. 1 Corinthians 15:8. That’s it, the only firsthand account of anyone claiming to have seen Jesus, and that was after his death and resurrection. Paul even stated when Jesus appeared to him, he had been brought up the the third heaven and didn’t know if he was in his body or out of his body. 2 Corinthians 12:2.

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None of the gospels we have were written by people who claimed firsthand to be an eyewitness. The only written words in the entire Bible that were a first person eyewitness claim was of Paul. 1 Corinthians 15:8. That’s it, the only firsthand account of anyone claiming to have seen Jesus, and that was after his death and resurrection. Paul even stated when Jesus appeared to him, he had been brought up the the third heaven and didn’t know if he was in his body or out of his body. 2 Corinthians 12:2.

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Wow. It's amazing how people will state complete lies with such certainty. How did you allow yourself to be convinced of this nonsense?

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You will grovel before that "myth" before long.

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"Just wait and see" is so compelling...

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You've been given plenty of warning already.

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Oh, I know.

And if I just wait, someday I'll see. No one will ever know, but it's totally going to happen.

I get where you are coming from. I understand exactly what you are attempting. Know all to well.


In short, all you have manged to do is put forth opinions.

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Biblical Solutions that we use to honor and would solve alot of problems

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If everyone employed New Testament teachings into their daily lives, America would be a paradise.

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The Jesus myth

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Here's the funny thing about atheists. For years we have been told how horrible Christians are for forcing their beliefs onto other people. Somehow though, in all my years of existence, I have never personally known any Christian who actually does this. Have I seen some street preachers here and there? Yes, and the Christians I know do not support what they do. They are also a very rare and few people.


Atheists though? I have yet to meet one that doesn't go out of his way to force his non beliefs on others. Every single Atheist I have known in my life ensures I know he is an Atheist and that Jesus is a myth.

It's no wonder people don't like you. You are exactly what you wrongly ridicule others for doing. You are especially exposing yourself as fraudulent when you try to use the Bible as a gotcha, because it's clear you know nothing about it outside of the few quotes your fellow Atheists give you to use as gotchas; quotes taken out of context and being used with your inserted meanings without understanding of their real meanings. All you do is make yourself look more the fool than you already do.


Personally I don't care if people are Atheist. That's their religion, and they have every right to adhere to it as they wish. You do you bro, and please keep quoting things you know nothing about here so that we can all continue to laugh at you.

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I have never personally known any Christian who actually does this.

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I mean, on this very page you have one telling DB that he is going to "grovel" before Christianity. So you don't have to look very far to see that your statement isn't true.

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I have yet to meet one that doesn't go out of his way to force his non beliefs on others. Every single Atheist I have known in my life ensures I know he is an Atheist and that Jesus is a myth.

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That's not forcing his belief on you though. That's just stating his belief. You're just offended by it.

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I don't give one frick what garbage people like you think of me,

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Midget Death Squad

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Nah. I think you're an idiot. My opinions shouldn't bother you, but they do.