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Ben Shapiro under fire for writing piece downplaying racial wealth gap

Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:37 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:37 pm
Despite the piece being well-researched and full of data
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On Thursday, a tweet on race went viral, as these things are apt to do on social media. This tweet simplified the wealth gap between races to its supposed bare essentials:



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But it is true that there is a massive wealth gap between black Americans and white Americans. According to the Center for American Progress, an admitted liberal outlet, as of 2016, the median wealth for nonretired black households above age 25 was $13,460 compared with $142,180. That gap rises near retirement age — black Americans between ages 50 and 65 had “about 10 percent of the wealth of whites in the same age group.”

But using wealth as a metric is a bit of a misnomer. That’s because wealth includes homeownership, rather than merely earnings. Black Americans who lived under Jim Crow had less opportunity to earn and build wealth than white Americans — and that is reflected in generational wealth. Racist policies of the past do have a significantly greater impact on the wealth of grandparents than they do on the income of children born now or on members of the Millennial generation.

But that isn’t a measure of the impact of racism now. A better measure would be income — and there is an income gap between black Americans and white Americans.


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But what explains such income gaps? Usually, it’s factors other than racism. Wealth inheritance is a poor proxy for income mobility — which is the statistic we truly care about. Most Americans don’t get rich because grandma was rich; most Americans get rich because they take advantage of individual opportunities. A widely-cited study from researchers at Stanford, Harvard and the Census Bureau, which was supposed to show that inheritance was a key factor in income mobility according to members of the media, showed precisely the opposite: wealth level was not the chief cause of continuing disparity.


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Furthermore, the study showed that Asian-Americans earned more than whites raised at the same income levels, and income gaps between whites and Hispanics were converging


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Disparities do not always imply discrimination. In the case of historic wealth, there is no question that discrimination and wealth disparity are heavily linked. But the suggestion that white people today are earning at a higher level than black people can’t be blamed on how much money you inherited from grandma




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When Forbes magazine’s annual list of the 400 richest people first appeared in 1982, people with inherited wealth were 21 percent of that 400 – which is to say, nearly four-fifths of these rich people earned the money themselves. By 2006, fewer than 2 percent of the 400 wealthiest people on the Fobes magazine list were there because of inherited wealth.


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A 2010 study from Edward Wolff and Maury Gittleman of the Obama administration’s Bureau of Labor Statistics found similar trends:

We found that on average over the period from 1989 to 2007, 21 percent of American households at a given point of time received a wealth transfer and these accounted for 23 percent of their net worth. Over the lifetime, about 30 percent of households could expect to receive a wealth transfer and these would account for close to 40 percent of their net worth near time of death. However, there is little evidence of an inheritance “boom.” In fact, from 1989 to 2007, the share of households reporting a wealth transfer fell by 2.5 percentage points. The average value of inheritances received among all households did increase but at a slow pace, by 10 percent, and wealth transfers as a proportion of current net worth fell sharply over this period from 29 to 19 percent or by 10 percentage points. We also found, somewhat surprisingly, that inheritances and other wealth transfers tend to be equalizing in terms of the distribution of household wealth. Indeed, the addition of wealth transfers to other sources of household wealth has had a sizeable effect on reducing the inequality of wealth.


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The evidence simply isn’t there that continuing wealth gaps are primarily a result of historic inheritance issues. In fact, the opposite should be true: as wealth transfers decrease, wealth gaps should decrease as well. They aren’t, overall, which suggests that income disparities are the true continuing cause of wealth gaps, and those disparities are far more clearly tied to individual behavior than historic or current discrimination.


How Much Of The Racial Economic Gap Is A Result Of Racism?
Posted by Big_Slim
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Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:38 pm to
Little Ben Shapiro is more overhyped than method actors.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:44 pm to
And now the far left will attempt to silence Shapiro and others. Just as I predicted several days after the Alex Jones fiasco. The left simply cannot compete in the arena of ideas and thought so they simply call everyone a racist or a bigot and shut them down. It's sad really. I pity their poor intellect and generally stupid outlook on life.

If your only argument is "You're a bigot!" Then you have no argument and don't deserve to have a voice in the political discourse. It means you are irrelevant.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70345 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:45 pm to
I don't remember getting a $50K check from any of my grandparents. I guess I'm not white.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120290 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:46 pm to
Rational thoughts, stats and facts are irrelevant to the left.

Its all about emotion.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:46 pm to
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full of data

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data

is racist
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67959 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:50 pm to
Ben is so frustrating.

One minute I take issue with him, and the next one I am defending him.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
AK
Member since Sep 2014
12123 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:52 pm to
$50k check? I could count on my grandmother to give me a $5 bill in a card every Christmas. My grandfather always gave me a used book that I assume he picked up at some auction that year. Might not have been $50k, but I think both were trying to teach me something very valuable.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25008 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:53 pm to
I get so tired of this. Wealth gap does not equal wage gap.

If you are paid less than someone based solely on your race or gender (all other metrics of measuring experience and performance are the exact same between you and someone else) then yes, that's a wage gap and is wrong.

However, if you get paid the same as Bob, but you blow 65% of your paycheck on bullshite and Bob saves 65% of his paycheck, then yes there's going to he wealth disparity. And that's no one's fault but your own. Save your money like Bob and stop acting like you're a victim of some bullshite injustice.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8072 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:56 pm to
The image of that tweet in the OP truly bothers me.

How hard is it to find research that you can base a counter-argument around? And, if you can't find research to base a counter-argument around ... stop arguing.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73797 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 12:58 pm to
Bens a cuck
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:02 pm to
Facts are racist
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71844 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:03 pm to
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White people get $50k checks from their elderly grandparents.




My grandparents were poor AF their entire lives.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48931 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:03 pm to
Wealth and IQ have a direct correlation.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16867 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:04 pm to
Wait a minute.

Where was I when MawMaw was handing out $50K checks?
Posted by Plx1776
Member since Oct 2017
16237 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:05 pm to
It's complete bullshite that a white CEO makes more money than a black McDonald's cashier.
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25008 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:06 pm to
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Wealth and IQ have a direct correlation.


I'm often surprised at how often this isn't actually true.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
12576 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:09 pm to
That Tweet from general gee, really sums up true systematic oppression/victimization the left has done to Blacks.
Posted by RentSeekAndDestroy
Member since Mar 2018
602 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:10 pm to
I don’t care what Zionist millhouse has to say about anything

Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 8/10/18 at 1:10 pm to
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White people get $50k checks from their elderly grandparents.


Nuance seems to evade people like this...



This post was edited on 8/10/18 at 1:12 pm
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