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re: Beating the Democrats in '24 isn't the ultimate goal

Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:29 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:29 am to
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But he is the only one who has ever walked in, fought back, and said I'm going to do the best I can and you can't buy me. That is good enough for me. I'll take 4 more years of what I already know then take a chance of being told what I want to hear and another W administration happens.


Delusional.

The dude has you convinced that he's out there fighting for you and America. He isn't. He's fighting for himself.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:30 am to
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He's fighting for himself.



To what ends? Less money and being torn to shreds every day constantly? The logical is flawed in this argument.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130223 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:31 am to
His massive ego.

He does not give a frick about you, or America.

if he did, he wouldn't be relentlessly trying to tear down one of the best, most conservative Governors in America, without any provocation at all.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:31 am to
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To what ends? Less money and being torn to shreds every day constantly? The logical is flawed in this argument.


Ego. He's a failure and that's what he'll be remembered as, and he can't stand it.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
25427 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:41 am to
There is a reason everyone is suing Trump right now. It's because the democrats are scared to death of him being able to run.

The dems stopped fearing Ron the second Bill Kristol endorsed him. Now it's 'STOP TRUMP AT ALL COSTS' because they know what he brings to the table.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130223 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:43 am to
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democrats are scared to death of him being able to run.




The powers that be on the Dem side desperately want him to run.

The constant attacks on him are just to keep negative press in the news.

It fires up his base but weakens him greatly in the general.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28121 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:44 am to
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And the only way that happens is with a true outsider who can shed light on what is actually happening.


I agree with much of what you're saying, but this is where your statement fails. He didn't do a great job of this the first time around and he's learned nothing since then.
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
13845 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:45 am to
Agree
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:47 am to
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Ego. He's a failure and that's what he'll be remembered as, and he can't stand it.


You are projection and using hopium. That is what you want to be the case not what is actual fact based, logic based, reality.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:49 am to
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You are projection and using hopium. That is what you want to be the case not what is actual fact based, logic based, reality.


If you can't refute my point, just say that.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:50 am to
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If you can't refute my point, just say that.


I did. I said what the logic? And you said "ego", which can't be proven or disproven. WTF do you want?

Ego has been a media talking point for 6+ years that doesn't hold any logic. It is used to make all these stories of motivation that Trump is a bad person when 99.9% of the stories turn out to be bullshite. But the "Trumps ego" stuff continues on. It is low IQ, programing.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 10:52 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476581 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:51 am to
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He didn't do a great job of this the first time around and he's learned nothing since then.

I will never understand why this concept is so difficult for people.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:53 am to
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I will never understand why this concept is so difficult for people.


You mean the 2.5 years where he was in a town and could trust no one. People would act like they were on his side and pull the rug out from under him at the last minute? If you want to knock him for picking bad people around him then by all means. But that town has had it out against him from day 1. He had zero help.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:55 am to
Yes, what America needs is four more years of Susan Rice appointing federal judges, and writing more checks!
Trump can’t win.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130223 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:55 am to
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You mean the 2.5 years where he was in a town and could trust no one. People would act like they were on his side and pull the rug out from under him at the last minute? If you want to knock him for picking bad people around him then by all means. But that town has had it out against him from day 1. He had zero help.




Why would it be different now?

He had 4 years and did squat in this regard.

He hired bad people up until the end.

He refused to fire fricking Fauci.


It is the height of delusion to think "this time it will be different".

This charlatan has you people mesmerized. Instead of picking an effective politician that has crushed it in his own state, you pick the guy that already failed.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9794 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:56 am to
He’s a fighter!
He’s a victim!
He’s a fighter!
No, he’s a victim.
And on, and on it goes.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28121 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:56 am to
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But that town has had it out against him from day 1. He had zero help.


1. What's going to be different this time?

2. What has he learned since then? When you look at everything he does, how he acts, how much everything he says is focused on me me me, what are the indicators that Donald Trump has learned a few things and will govern differently?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:56 am to
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I did. I said what the logic? And you said "ego", which can't be proven or disproven. WTF do you want?


You asked "To what ends?"

I answered. You're projecting what you would do if you were in his shoes, rather than trying to understand why he does what he does. It's a simple evaluation based on observable information. If you have a different explanation, go for it. As it is, you're relying on the things he's said to keep the grift going, not the actions he's taken.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15251 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:57 am to
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He had 4 years and did squat in this regard.


He opened a shite ton of eyes of the American populous.

quote:

effective politician


I will never trust a career politician again. System is too corrupt. You don't get to those positions without selling your soul.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28121 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:59 am to
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I will never trust a career politician again.


You never should have trusted them to begin with.

That doesn't mean you should trust Donald Trump. That's a non sequitur.
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