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re: Based Russia…how a real power negotiates.

Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37416 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:49 pm to
Unlike yourself. I actually spent almost a year in Moscow and St Petersburg back in 2011 and that was my observation and summation at the time and, I suspect that nothing in their overall cultural milieu has changed. They don't have the Western optimism....or the work ethic. They have a very dark view of life and their overall prospects of anything better. So many in the cities I observed are exploited by both the government and the Vory...sometimes working together, it makes Sicilian relationships with the Italian Government and the mafia look like good government. Pretty high abuse of alcohol in the countryside as well.

You want more about Russia? I'm just touching on the footnotes.
Posted by theballguy
HSV (Dealing only in satire)
Member since Oct 2011
36710 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:56 pm to
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a country with a majority Christian population that champions family values


Posted by LightHeat
Member since Oct 2020
558 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 2:56 pm to
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It's essentially a failed petro/crime state with a horrible life expectancy, many citizens literally drinking themselves to death. It's only where it is to begin with due to having nukes.


Not to mention their shadow war against us. They'll do whatever they can to frick us with plausible deniability, anywhere in the world, any time. They were literally funding BLM groups to try to start a race war. They stoke our political divisions at every turn, and want us killing each other in the streets.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134768 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:00 pm to
When I was working in Moscow one of the ladies in the office once asked me what my impressions of Russians were and how Russians differed from Americans.

I replied, "I've noticed that Russians don't smile as much as Americans do."

She replied, "We don't have as much as Americans have to smile about."

I came to realize she was right.
Posted by WildernessTraveler7
Member since May 2025
65 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:03 pm to
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Unlike yourself. I actually spent almost a year in Moscow and St Petersburg back in 2011 and that was my observation and summation at the time and, I suspect that nothing in their overall cultural milieu has changed


I also spent a year in Houston over 10 years ago…that gives me no insight on Liberty County or Chambers County outside of Houston NOR all of Houston’s multi-cultural neighborhoods.

That’s a no true Scotsman fallacy you’re relying on. I’m a student of history and joined the Army at the tail end of the USSR boogey man propaganda we were all fed…now 30 years later, non communist Russia is again being championed by our war pigs in the MIC as a threat with no evidence,

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37416 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:16 pm to
You did not have to deal with representatives of either the government.....or their friends. I have experience with both. You want a breakdown? It makes dealing with mob controlled construction interests in NYC look like dealing with enlightened forward thinking reasonable functionaries.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:18 pm to
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When I was working in Moscow one of the ladies in the office once asked me what my impressions of Russians were and how Russians differed from Americans.

I replied, "I've noticed that Russians don't smile as much as Americans do."

She replied, "We don't have as much as Americans have to smile about."

I came to realize she was right.


Let me ask you why you didn't go to Ukraine to earn money since that's the bustling sector of Western democracy and opportunity.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134768 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:20 pm to
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now 30 years later, non communist Russia is again being championed by our war pigs in the MIC as a threat with no evidence,

Do you mean except for Putin, Medvedev and Lavrov repeatedly threatening nuclear war against the US even mentioning how many minutes its ICBMs launched from Russia would take to deliver nuclear weapons to New York and Washington, DC and then clarifying that the warning time is even shorter if the ICBMs were launched from their nuclear submarines stationed off of our east coast?

Or, how Russia has used their fighter aircraft to dump fuel on our unarmed surveillance drones flying in international airspace damaging the drones and causing more than one of them to crash? And they've done the same dumping of fuel on our manned jets?

Or how Russia is assisting Iran to develop its nuclear weapons capabilities which would definitely be a threat to the USA and our allies?

Or how Russian troops in Syria actually used military force to injure US troops there which became so frequent and violent that the US military was forced to attack and destroy a Russian base to neutralize it?

Or how Russian contractors hid surveillance devices throughout the new US embassy building in Moscow that were so prevalent that the US refused to occupy it?

Is that the "no evidence of threats" to us you believe in?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37416 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:22 pm to
Did you find that there was an underlying sense of exploitation that they felt? Like they were always on the verge of despair. I got that impression a lot in Moscow.....not as bad in St. Petersburg, but still there.

A German co- worker of mine told me to never get too close with them, or regret will be your new companion.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134768 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:24 pm to
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Let me ask you why you didn't go to Ukraine to earn money
I've worked in Kiev, Odessa and Lviv, Ukraine.

You just can't make a single intelligent statement...

What was your most recent previous screen name on here?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134768 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:33 pm to
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Did you find that there was an underlying sense of exploitation that they felt?
My impression was there was a pervading sense of resignation and meloncholy.

Almost every Russian I met seemed to be a human version of Eeyore from the Winnie the Pooh animations.
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
6007 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:35 pm to
Five? I thought the deal was that they didn’t want NATO moving closer? So, they’re going to move even closer to NATO?

What gives, Russki bros?
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37416 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:40 pm to
Yep....resignation was the word I was looking for.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 3:44 pm to
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I've worked in Kiev, Odessa and Lviv, Ukraine.

You just can't make a single intelligent statement...


That sounds like a USAID employee. That would explain some of your bullshite.

I can see an NGO US taxpayer funded shill who lost his easy street employment being upset about losing the gig. All that shite about "freedom" and "democracy", which doesn't apply to Ukraine and hating Putin bitterly would then make sense. If you were part of that sowing discord shite in the country, it's too bad they didn't keep you there. Who the hell needs you here, plenty of shitlibs as is.

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Unlike yourself. I actually spent almost a year in Moscow and St Petersburg back in 2011 and that was my observation and summation at the time and, I suspect that nothing in their overall cultural milieu has changed. They don't have the Western optimism....or the work ethic. They have a very dark view of life and their overall prospects of anything better. So many in the cities I observed are exploited by both the government and the Vory...sometimes working together, it makes Sicilian relationships with the Italian Government and the mafia look like good government. Pretty high abuse of alcohol in the countryside as well.

You want more about Russia? I'm just touching on the footnotes.


On a small forum, an unusual amount of Russian long-term tourists and workers.
This post was edited on 5/16/25 at 3:57 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134768 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:03 pm to
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That sounds like a USAID employee.
You're 0 for 4.

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I can see an NGO US taxpayer funded shill who lost his easy street employment being upset about losing the gig.
0 for 5.

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If you were part of that sowing discord shite in the country
0 for 6

Now, why was your previous screen name banned? Was it for making personal attacks on other posters?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26402 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:27 pm to


Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21218 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:33 pm to
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They were literally funding BLM groups to try to start a race war. They stoke our political divisions at every turn, and want us killing each other in the streets.


That's OUR government and NGOs.
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:41 pm to
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You're 0 for 4.



No USAID for you, buddy.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27100 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 4:59 pm to
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But,there is so much the Russians do to be anti about.


But they didn't:
Make and release covid19. We did and China helped.

Have bioweapons labs in Ukraine. But we did. (we refers to our govt)

Blow up the world trade centers. But we did.

Put poison in our food. But we did.

Lie about there being no alternatives to the mRNA shots. But we did.

Overthrow a sovereign gov't in Ukr.! But we did.

Test LSD on its own citizens. But we did.

Setup its own citizens on Jan. 6th. But we did.

Set up the kidnapping of a governor... But we did.

Fake an attack to get us into Vietnam. But we did.

Flood our country with tens of millions of illegal aliens. But we did.

The full list would be endless.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16282 posts
Posted on 5/16/25 at 5:18 pm to
After reading how it all went down I went from neutral/slightly Russia to strong anti-russia.

Nato - including the US - should make plans for a joint operation.
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