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re: Banning Modern Agriculture and High Crop Yields?

Posted on 7/25/22 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 1:59 pm to
The Ag sector is being regulated by people that think men can get pregnant and carry a child full term.
Posted by WildManGoose
Member since Nov 2005
4607 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:09 pm to
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organic farming over time produces higher yields than "commercial."
All farming used to be "organic" farming. Why was there ever a switch?
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
7477 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:22 pm to
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quote:
organic farming over time produces higher yields than "commercial."
All farming used to be "organic" farming. Why was there ever a switch?


You serious?

Efficiency. When you take out a step, you save a ton of cash.
Do you know how often you had to plow cotton in the old days? And by old days, I mean when I was a teenager on our farm? All the fricking time. Then they made roundup resistant cotton, and you could spray with a lay-by or hooded sprayer ONCE. The first year we made that switch, we saved over $50,000 in fuel. That's a lot of dang fuel.

It allows you to easily go back over another crop without plowing, harrowing, tilling, plowing, etc etc... the savings on fuel are astronomical. As stated above, it also has numerous benefits for the soil.

Posted by Taurus
Loozianna
Member since Feb 2015
4955 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:26 pm to
just use soap and water????
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75340 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 2:58 pm to
SIAP-

The only reason many farms are moving to organic is because they can sell it for 2x price to the millions of Organic Non-GMO Cultists in the country, and that includes companies who manufacture food Organic Energy Bars and whatnot, because there are people in the grocery store who are Cultists will pay double for the organic variety of the same fruit bar sitting next to it.

It has nothing to do with non-GMO or otherwise organic agricultural products being more efficient or cheaper to grow.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27236 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 3:19 pm to
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yields take off


You know what else takes off?

Weeds
Posted by Caddo
Member since Dec 2014
469 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 3:29 pm to
I’ve farmed for a living for 27 years and organic anything is impossible on any kind of scale especially in the south. And beware of anything that is labeled organic, because it’s probably not what you think it is. If you want to pay more for your food and have it look like crap, then go organic.
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 3:30 pm to
These people think ma & pa are farming 50 acres with 14 children and a hoe apiece.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
10973 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 3:36 pm to



About 10 years ago, there was a pretty big fish kill in. Corpus Christi bay and the environmentalists were all over the local govt and farmers for pollution run off.

It culminated in a large public meeting with speakers that had 2 or more doctoral degrees. 7 of 8 speakers sorted farm pollution as the source and 1 had the process linked to deep water turnover in the gulf.

During question/answers a farmer got up and said emphatically its not run off. I know because we have been in a severe drought the past 2 years and there has been no runoff.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3739 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 3:42 pm to
This is total bullshite. "Organic" farming is as big of a scam as covid and climate change
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
3118 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 4:24 pm to
I want to be on your side man, I'd love large scale organic farming.

But directly from the only link you've posted:

The Farming Systems Trial is located on 12 ACRES at our main campus in Kutztown, Pennsylvania.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4519 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 4:44 pm to
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This is horse shite. I farm for a living and can assure you if everyone switched to organic there would be mass starvation. I think we have identified the environmental wacko on the poli board.


Thank you!!!
It embarrasses the shite out of me that this numb nuts has a Mizzou logo spouting this BS. The Mo. State Fair starts in a couple weeks and I’d dare him to come utter these lies to the actual Ag. community there and see him ridiculed and laughed off the stage.
Remember they would have you believe 2 + 2 = 5
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 4:50 pm to
They can’t bullshite people that do it for a living.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 6:09 pm to
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There are 30+years of studies showing organic farming over time produces higher yields than "commercial." There are initial reductions when a change is made but as the soil becomes re-stabilized, yields take off.



Sri Lanka disagrees with your dumbarse assertion.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 6:17 pm to
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Sorry but I smell BS here and I don't think it is the fertilizer...

Answer one question for me: Why haven't farmers moved to this type of farming then?


LINK

That is ONE study


If it does not have a methods section and a results section for one to read and form his own opinion then it is not a study. Sorry but all you posted was advertising material.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38341 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 6:25 pm to
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Get ready. Roundup will soon be off the market for retail buyers.

The last 2 1/2 gallon jug I bought was $70. It has tripled. Over $200
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 6:26 pm to
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I want to be on your side man, I'd love large scale organic farming.







quote:

But directly from the only link you've posted:

The Farming Systems Trial is located on 12 ACRES at our main campus in Kutztown, Pennsylvania.



Organic agriculture is great for gardens. Not so great for feeding the world.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40226 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 6:30 pm to
Pretty sure that if my rice farming husband didn't use chemicals and what not in his fields that the crop itself would be eventually taken over with weeds .. reducing the actual rice yield reducing the actual rice produced reducing the rice that gets to the stores.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45551 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 6:35 pm to
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Pretty sure that if my rice farming husband didn't use chemicals and what not in his fields that the crop itself would be eventually taken over with weeds .. reducing the actual rice yield reducing the actual rice produced reducing the rice that gets to the stores.



That is what immigrants from Africa and central America and hoes are for.
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3739 posts
Posted on 7/25/22 at 6:38 pm to
I am a USDA certified organic produce farmer. Organic stuff is all bullshite
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