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re: AZ Senate Passes 'Right to Discriminate' Bill
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:31 pm to upgrayedd
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:31 pm to upgrayedd
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The fact that it is government backed discrimination is what makes it wrong.
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Like giving someone a job based on race, not qualifications aka affirmative action
Exactly what affirmative action is, no more, no less
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:32 pm to kingbob
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If you let business owners make the decisions for themselves, the market will take care of them, and by "take care of them", I mean it in the mafia sense of the word.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:33 pm to Godfather1
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And fortunately, fascists as extreme as yourself are few and far between.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:34 pm to GumboPot
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I guess you think a bakery is required to carry every cake topper known to man in their shops. I don't.
Or how fortunate here in 21st century america there is someway they can order said topper when requested..
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:34 pm to asurob1
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If I don't want to sell my house to you because you know, talking to guys with bushy mustaches is against my religion
That should be your right because guess what, ITS YOUR HOUSE. The government doesn't own MY house and they sure as frick aren't going to tell me who I can and can't sell it to. Same with a PRIVATE business
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:34 pm to asurob1
quote:So where is the government backing? People can refuse to go to the business. People can protest the business.
No they aren't forcing them to discriminate. They are telling them it's okay if they do and no legal action can occur to prevent said discriminatory practices.
The only thing that people can't do is take legal action against the business.
quote:If that is what you believed, I'd defend it to my last breath.
If I don't want to sell my house to you because you know, talking to guys with bushy mustaches is against my religion...well hell now it's game on which is counter to the Fair Housing Discrimination act.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:34 pm to Scruffy
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If people want turn down perfectly good money from someone for something as idiotic as their skin color, religion, or sexual orientation, that is their loss.
Clue me in.
What religion has a doctrine that calls for the discrimination of someone because of the color of their skin?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:35 pm to shawnlsu
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That should be your right because guess what, ITS YOUR HOUSE. The government doesn't own MY house and they sure as frick aren't going to tell me who I can and can't sell it to. Same with a PRIVATE business
Someone probably needs to brush up on Fair Housing Laws.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:36 pm to asurob1
Way to dodge the point I was making. Typical
And fair housing laws are nothing more than affirmative action which is in itself discriminatory and just another erosion to our god given rights
And fair housing laws are nothing more than affirmative action which is in itself discriminatory and just another erosion to our god given rights
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:38 pm to asurob1
The bills sponsor acknowledged this also allows motels to turn away gays, Jews, and unmarried women.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:38 pm to asurob1
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If I don't want to sell my house to you because you know, talking to guys with bushy mustaches is against my religion...well hell now it's game on which is counter to the Fair Housing Discrimination act.
I have no problem with this. If I live in a neighborhood of dog people and I was selling my house, I probably wouldn't want to sell it to Michael Vick. That's all well and good, but I just missed out on a potential customer. Rather than closing the sale with the dog murderer, my house sits on the market and I lose money. However, it is not the governments job to protect people from bad decisions, as doing so often encourages worse decisions because it prevents people from experiencing the consequences of poor choices. If the home owner is willing to risk losing money because he doesn't want to sell his home to a Jewish couple, that's his choice. Note that this is my personal opinion, not my legal opinion.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:41 pm to shawnlsu
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Way to dodge the point I was making. Typical
And fair housing laws are nothing more than affirmative action which is in itself discriminatory and just another erosion to our god given rights
bullshite.
But of course I'm sure you are down with white's only neighborhoods.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:42 pm to Toddy
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The bills sponsor acknowledged this also allows motels to turn away gays, Jews, and unmarried women.
oh no don't tell them that. They think this is all about the gays.
As written, the bill will allow a muslim tax cab driver to refuse to drive a woman who is alone to her destination.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:42 pm to asurob1
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So you're in favor of the gov't basically saying frick you, we own you, your labor and your products and we'll force you to do something you don't want to do even when I have not harmed anybody, stole anything or slandered somebody?
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Yup.
Why I am I not surprised that you're fine with legislated morality as long you agree with it?
People and their property don't belong to you.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:43 pm to kingbob
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If the home owner is willing to risk losing money because he doesn't want to sell his home to a Jewish couple, that's his choice. Note that this is my personal opinion, not my legal opinion.
Fortunately we have laws preventing such things.
The fact is this bill elevates the religious beliefs of some above the civil rights of others. And if signed means you can violate those civil rights with the help of your friendly arizona government. Just another black eye for the state.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:44 pm to Toddy
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The bills sponsor acknowledged this also allows motels to turn away gays, Jews, and unmarried women.
No problem with that.
They don't have a right to their products,
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:44 pm to kingbob
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I have no problem with this. If I live in a neighborhood of dog people and I was selling my house, I probably wouldn't want to sell it to Michael Vick. That's all well and good, but I just missed out on a potential customer. Rather than closing the sale with the dog murderer, my house sits on the market and I lose money. However, it is not the governments job to protect people from bad decisions, as doing so often encourages worse decisions because it prevents people from experiencing the consequences of poor choices. If the home owner is willing to risk losing money because he doesn't want to sell his home to a Jewish couple, that's his choice. Note that this is my personal opinion, not my legal opinion.
Yes, a homeowner who is very close to his neighbors should be forced to sell his house to a convicted child molester and put his friends' children at risk. It's the American way!
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:44 pm to asurob1
I'm completely fine with people self-segregating themselves. I'm fine with whites only neighborhoods, blacks only neighborhoods, ect if the people of those neighborhoods want it that way. In no way should the government ever enforce that. However, neighborhoods are rarely really and truly segregated by race as much as class.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:44 pm to Sentrius
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Why I am I not surprised that you're fine with legislated morality as long you agree with it?
People and their property don't belong to you.
Why am I not surprised that you are okay with discrimination?
You are a better person then this. You damn well know what this is about.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 8:45 pm to asurob1
quote:My first post states how it is broad and that makes it better.
oh no don't tell them that. They think this is all about the gays.
quote:So?
As written, the bill will allow a muslim tax cab driver to refuse to drive a woman who is alone to her destination.
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