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re: AZ Senate Passes 'Right to Discriminate' Bill
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:07 pm to Eighteen
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:07 pm to Eighteen
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Exactly. Why would say, gay rights supports and gays want to give money to a bigot anyway? Seems like they would want to spend their dollars with gay-friendly businesses
Good point.
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:07 pm to Toddy
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Not really following you. Are you saying businesses should put up "No Gays Served Here" signs?
If they feel that way, sure. I think it would be very bad for business. I think market equality is miles ahead government equality.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:07 pm to Sentrius
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Do any people really have even the slightest frick of an idea what the frick Jim crow laws were?
I'm about to go crazy with these dumbass comparisons.
It's insane.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:08 pm to Toddy
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Not really following you. Are you saying businesses should put up "No Gays Served Here" signs?
No, he's saying wouldn't you like to know that you're doing business with people who hate you so you can take your business to someone who doesn't? By being forced by the law to serve everyone, it forces gays to buy goods and services from homophobes who otherwise would be allowed to alienate those customers who would instead patronize another business.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:09 pm to BobABooey
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I'm more concerned that there are 56 other states where the Government will force store owners to do business against their wishes.
you collect public funds for transaction of business, you leave your personal wishes at your home address
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:09 pm to Toddy
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Good point.
Well now you never know because the bigot/homphobe/racist/sexist person is forced to serve you instead of making the poor business decision to not
Gays using the government to become their militants by mandating businesses do something is a huge turn off to me
By the way, the whole government mandating businesses do something thing IS what Jim Crow laws were
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:09 pm to Sentrius
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Do any people really have even the slightest frick of an idea what the frick Jim crow laws were?
I'm about to go crazy with these dumbass comparisons.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:10 pm to Toddy
I say this as a man who supports the right for gay adults to enter into public contracts.
If I was a business owner, I would serve you without hesitation except if it had to do with your wedding because it conflicts with my religious convictions of what marriage means.
If I was a business owner, I would serve you without hesitation except if it had to do with your wedding because it conflicts with my religious convictions of what marriage means.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:11 pm to kingbob
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No, he's saying wouldn't you like to know that you're doing business with people who hate you so you can take your business to someone who doesn't? By being forced by the law to serve everyone, it forces gays to buy goods and services from homophobes who otherwise would be allowed to alienate those customers who would instead patronize another business.
Exactly.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:12 pm to Cruiserhog
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you collect public funds for transaction of business, you leave your personal wishes at your home address
What?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:13 pm to Sentrius
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You don't know what Jim Crow is.
Do any people really have even the slightest frick of an idea what the frick Jim crow laws were?
Evidently not. Every time someone feels slighted they claim some stupid Jim Crow comparison.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:13 pm to Patrick O Rly
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No, he's saying wouldn't you like to know that you're doing business with people who hate you so you can take your business to someone who doesn't? By being forced by the law to serve everyone, it forces gays to buy goods and services from homophobes who otherwise would be allowed to alienate those customers who would instead patronize another business.
Exactly.
The logic of this statement is just too much to overcome. How can anyone who has any desire for personal freedom not agree with this sentiment? I
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:14 pm to MrCarton
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I edited my earlier post because I realized how much of an a-hole I sounded like after I re-read it.
I don't think discrimination is inherently bad. I can think of a few situations off hand which I make conscious decisions to surround myself with people of like mind and intent. I have a hard time seeing this as some sort of indictment of culture.
If people have to really discriminate to keep another group out, and by doing so profit immensely, isn't that indicative that the culture they were trying to get away from probably isn't a very good culture.
Generally, discrimination alienates a customer base, denying the business owner potential sales. Discrimination is profitable when the loss of revenue from the alienated customer base is less than the revenue brought in by new customers patronizing the business because of the lack of the now alienated customer base.
I find that in today's day and age, that situation rarely occurs thanks to minority and religious groups and the media.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:19 pm to MrCarton
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The logic of this statement is just too much to overcome. How can anyone who has any desire for personal freedom not agree with this sentiment?
Because they don't desire it.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:20 pm to Patrick O Rly
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Because they don't desire it.
Why though?
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:21 pm to Patrick O Rly
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If I was a business owner, I would serve you without hesitation except if it had to do with your wedding because it conflicts with my religious convictions of what marriage means.
And that's perfectly fine. I wouldn't try to force you. But I would make sure that all of my friends and family knew you don't believe I should be treated equally and we would never give you any business of any kind again.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:21 pm to kingbob
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Generally, discrimination alienates a customer base, denying the business owner potential sales. Discrimination is profitable when the loss of revenue from the alienated customer base is less than the revenue brought in by new customers patronizing the business because of the lack of the now alienated customer base.
Precisely.
I don't think one can honestly say that I am a bad person because I prefer to work with other men and not women, or that I don't want to be in an athletic club with women, or that I want my hunting club to be composed of people of a similar background and culture. We certainly don't see night clubs that cater to certain ethnic or social groups as inherently negative. Do we really believe that a predominately gay, black, white, or hispanic night clubs have a negative impact on society? I don't. There is moral real estate in my mind for these types of businesses. There are certainly markets for them.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:22 pm to Patrick O Rly
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Because they don't desire it.
Your right. Personal freedom must be an incredible weight to bear for some of us.
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:22 pm to Patrick O Rly
Edit: doubled up
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:24 pm to Toddy
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But I would make sure that all of my friends and family knew you don't believe I should be treated equally and we would never give you any business of any kind again.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is the way it should be with a free market at work.
Without gov't protection, you have no recourse when the market punishes you for actions it deems unacceptable.
See the duck dynasty Robertson debacle for example.
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