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re: AZ Senate Passes 'Right to Discriminate' Bill

Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57818 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:41 pm to
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Well it actually opens the door to further discrimination against people of all walks of life.


Maybe your pre-conceived racist tendencies are to blame. Not what you think others will do. Again, the market dictates success of a company. Not the government.

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Watching multiple interviews with various Arizonan Thug Republicans...it's pretty obvious none of them actually read the bill before they voted on it...you can see it by how much they are now squirming to distance themselves from it.


It's 2 pages. You haven't read it either. Please post text of bill that states the bill is "right to discriminate".

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So yeah, pretty cut and dry...it was an unnecessary bill that further erodes civil rights...kinda the opposite of what they are saying.




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Soon and I mean very soon...you are going to see a new civil rights bill work it's way through congress that names homosexuals as a protected class...and it will be your own damn fault. Because guys like me could have given a shite about all this before the GOP started meddling in it and made it a far larger deal then it actually was.


bullshite. The left are the only ones making this gay thing a big deal. Take the Michael Sam issue. Why were you guys bitching so much over this when the right didn't make an issue of it?
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Surely it is just as subject to twisting, right?


certainly. Again, my chief issue with this is not that it changes the level of discriminatory practices that go on every day in Phoenix. Believe me, no law is going to change what I see all the time. My chief issue is the government is backing them with the full weight of the law.

That is wrong.

Will signing this bill allow denny's to kick out the gay man trying to order coffee after a night out with his boyfriends? Probably not, but if the night manager of Denny's decides this guy is an abomination, he now knows he has the full weight of the law to practice his homophobia and bar the door to him and that my friend...is wrong.

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Y u try so hard man? U get nowhere


Honestly, no one is changing any minds on this board. A lot of people are trapped in the 50s and 60s with their views on how things should be.

Sometimes the debate is lively and sometimes it devolves into name calling. Either way, it's entertainment...nothing more...nothing less.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90502 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:42 pm to
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I will stop when the prejudiced SOBS stop trying to say their group is better than others and wake the f up. It's 2014 and George Wallace is dead.
Again with this shite? Sad really the 60s called and said give it a fricking rest already.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55375 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:43 pm to
Funny if Cardinals draft Michael Sam. he can play there but restaurants won't serve him.

Turns out he was terrible during the combine
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:43 pm to
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If I try to accept it, I feel so apathetic, worthless, and hopeless. xD


So you feel like a minority in this country having to deal with the bullshite they put up with every day...just to live.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55375 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:43 pm to
Hey rob love the weather there
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
8590 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:43 pm to
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No fool Private businesses cannot discriminate who they serve.


So if the local Klansman walks in and wants a cake depicting maybe a noose or maybe a cross burning in a yard, I can't refuse to serve him?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90502 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:44 pm to
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Will signing this bill allow denny's to kick out the gay man trying to order coffee after a night out with his boyfriends?
Site the portion of the proposed legislation that does that, it's only two pages I am sure you can do it.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:44 pm to
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So Faux is a viable source now Rex?


Well I figure you'd be a little bit worried that the guys who normally give you your marching orders are agreeing with me.

Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90502 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:44 pm to
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Funny if Cardinals draft Michael Sam. he can play there but restaurants won't serve him.
You actually believe that horeshit don't you?
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90502 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Well I figure you'd be a little bit worried that the guys who normally give you your marching orders are agreeing with me.
Ah yes the tried and true Faux news watcher.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:46 pm to
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Funny if Cardinals draft Michael Sam. he can play there but restaurants won't serve him.

Turns out he was terrible during the combine


I think he gets drafted, but gets cut or ends up on the practice squad...he will be like tebow...and their will be a lot of pressure for whoever drafts him to play him.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57818 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:46 pm to
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No fool Private businesses cannot discriminate who they serve.


Private business has the right to refuse service to anyone. ANYONE they deem fit.

The reason businesses do not turn away or discriminate anymore is because it is bad business, and basically, people aren't like that anymore. And if a business is fool enough to discriminate against a willing paying customer, then that is their stupidity. Word will get out, and said business will fail because of it. We don't need nanny government stepping in telling us who we can and can't serve to.

If i started a business and didn't want to sell my product to NAMBLA, then i have the freedom to not sell to them. NAMBLA can get their product from someone else. It's a free market. Let it be free.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57818 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:48 pm to
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Funny if Cardinals draft Michael Sam. he can play there but restaurants won't serve him.


Which restaurants? This bill isn't a mandated, "no gay people can eat in arizona" bill. It simply protects the business from the government interfering, like what happened to that bakery in California.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
57818 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:49 pm to
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I will stop when the prejudiced SOBS stop trying to say their group is better than others and wake the f up. It's 2014 and George Wallace is dead.


Who is saying that? What group?
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:49 pm to
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Hey rob love the weather there


Yup. I need to get my arse back in the pool this weekend...take advantage of this before it gets too hot to breath again.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90502 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:52 pm to
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Yup. I need to get my arse back in the pool this weekend...take advantage of this before it gets too hot to breath again.
Gay dude in the office next to me is yammering about ice fishing this weekend.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 1:56 pm to
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Fox News Criticizes the Anti-Gay Jim Crow laws.




Again, with the absurd Jim Crow comparisons. Not even close.

This bill is not Jim Crow and in no way how it resembles the state administered, state sanctioned, publicly funded and politician encouraged discrimination Jim Crow was. It simply gets the frick out of the way private businesses conduct their affairs.

Laugh and ridicule everybody all you want but please do not post crap that's completely inaccurate. Or you can just be content with talking out of your arse.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59452 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:01 pm to
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JEAUXBLEAUX

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ASUROB


Either one of you going to respond and discuss the ACTUAL TEXT of the bill? I have asked several times for a cite to the actual language you object to.

Why do you focus on any possible argument you can imagine....except actually discussing the bill?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88976 posts
Posted on 2/26/14 at 2:01 pm to
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Funny if Cardinals draft Michael Sam. he can play there but restaurants won't serve him.


Wow.

I don't know who the bigger drama queen is...you or the OP.
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