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re: AZ Senate Passes 'Right to Discriminate' Bill

Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:32 pm to
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

he's a statist.
I'm attempting to enlighten him.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:33 pm to
Who are we talking about, Ron Paul?
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4897 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:35 pm to
I've given up trying to enlighten you, but I'm still hopeful others are not so far gone.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:36 pm to
On what? What a statist is?

How is a Congressman not a statist?
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:39 pm to
The Bill of Rights was not written for buisiness but the rights of people. And yes i would have a problem with the goverment coming into churches and telling them what they cant teach and preach. but we are not talking about churches or individual rights we are talking about what a buisiness can and cant do. so LA Tiger you can call me a statist(i think you ment satist) all you want but dont confuse INDIVIDUAL rights with laws that regulate buisiness
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:41 pm to
you really made the jump to Uganda and thier constitution. so what your telling me is you are in favor of the death sentence for homosexuality?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:42 pm to
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hawkeye007


If a gay couple wanted to commission me to paint a picture of them embracing should I be forced by the government to paint said picture? Do I have a right to refuse?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77226 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:44 pm to
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dont confuse INDIVIDUAL rights with laws that regulate buisiness
The two are intertwined. You can't regulate one without affecting the other.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4897 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:45 pm to
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How is a Congressman not a statist?
What does this have to do with anything we are talking about? Ron Paul has nothing to do with the AZ Senate. As a matter of fact, he is no longer a Congressman, so by your logic not a statist.

Did the light come on yet?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:46 pm to
I dunno. People are accusing people of being statists like that's a bad thing. Like 99% of the population is statist.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:46 pm to
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If a gay couple wanted to commission me to paint a picture of them embracing should I be forced by the government to paint said picture? Do I have a right to refuse?
No you don't as a bidness man you must bow to their will.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70432 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:47 pm to
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The Bill of Rights was not written for buisiness but the rights of people. And yes i would have a problem with the goverment coming into churches and telling them what they cant teach and preach. but we are not talking about churches or individual rights we are talking about what a buisiness can and cant do. so LA Tiger you can call me a statist(i think you ment satist) all you want but dont confuse INDIVIDUAL rights with laws that regulate buisiness



The problem is that businesses are owned by individuals. Businesses are made of and made by individuals. Individuals work at businesses, run businesses, and pay taxes from those businesses.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
6297 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:48 pm to
enough with the "if" questions its not a perfect situation where everyone will be happy. but its a bill that allows people to discriminate and any bill thats allows this is just wrong.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:49 pm to
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I think he has a bigger problem with the government protecting religious freedoms.


Those poor Christians...so much persecution in this country.



Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88979 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:49 pm to
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enough with the "if" questions its not a perfect situation where everyone will be happy. but its a bill that allows people to discriminate and any bill thats allows this is just wrong.


Chalk up another one who's against individual freedom.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:49 pm to
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Refusal of service is not infringement.


bullshite and you well know it.

Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77226 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:50 pm to
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enough with the "if" questions its not a perfect situation where everyone will be happy. but its a bill that allows people to discriminate and any bill thats allows this is just wrong.
Why?
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:50 pm to
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They're not. This bill does no such thing.


Once more, bullshite.

And you well know this.
Posted by asurob1
On the edge of the galaxy
Member since May 2009
26971 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:51 pm to
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this thread makes me sad for America. The fact that a state would allow buisineses to discriminate is a shame. what's even more shamefull is the amount of people defending the state's right because its there right to discriminate. so lets just appeal civil rights then.


Pretty much.

You know how I can tell this message board is located in the south..

...not from the accents in the posts.

Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
88979 posts
Posted on 2/25/14 at 12:51 pm to
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Refusal of service is not infringement.


quote:

bullshite and you well know it


If you have other equal or better options open to you, it's absolutely not infringement. And you know it.
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