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re: AZ Judge rules communication between Cyber Ninjas and Senate R's is public record

Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
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Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:00 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 12:56 am to
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That's all tex does, push conspiracy theories. But they are his conspiracies so they must be true.
I'm not pushing anything. The facts themselves fall in line.

Trump contacted Fann after the election. She then picked the unknown no-name Logan from Sarasota to lead the audit. State of Florida Republican party President (Joe Gruters) claims that he is not familiar with Logan (even though Logan and Gruters both live in Sarasota) but nevertheless Gruters said he is confident Logan will do a great job with the audit.

I think it's reasonable to think that Trump had a similar conversation with Fann that he had with Ga SOS Raffensperger the day before he spoke with Fann, where Trump told Raffensperger "And there’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated” and also “I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

Fann then picked Logan to lead the audit. And the game was on.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 3:23 am
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:22 am to
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they think they will find something on who paid cyber ninjas' that Karen from the other day already said the committee paid 100K and the rest is donations. How they were paid is a cheap gotcha.

What if Logan got paid a bonus individually before the audit even started?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62605 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:37 am to
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What if Logan got paid a bonus individually before the audit even started?


Is that someone involved with the audit?

I don't know about you, but at my audit firm we get bonuses for landing big clients...
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 3:00 am to
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I don't know about you, but at my audit firm we get bonuses for landing big clients...

If you conclude your situation in that circumstance is even remotely similar to Logan getting a quid pro quo pre-bonus on an election audit, your professional abilities have to be questioned.
Posted by Texas Yarddog
Member since Apr 2018
2993 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 5:39 am to
People - Communication between the audtiors and the State legislature must be released because the auditors work for the State taxpayers (FOIA).

Same People - The US Capitol Police are exempt from FOIA requests because they work for the US legistature, even though they are paid by the US taxpayers.

Clown World
Posted by cmac5125
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
360 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:34 am to
What’s wrong with transparency? Maybe this helps dispel of the talking point that Rs are in bed with Cyber Ninjas.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:39 am to
Some animals are more transparent than others.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:20 am to
If it weren't for double standards, Dems would have no standards at all.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62605 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 8:57 am to
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If you conclude your situation in that circumstance is even remotely similar to Logan getting a quid pro quo pre-bonus on an election audit, your professional abilities have to be questioned.


It's the same. Literally no difference at all, in fact. Just because they're auditing something you care about doesn't mean the audits I work on are held to a lower standard. In fact, I audit municipal governments and the same situation applies. People get bonuses for landing clients. It's how the professional services industry works.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 9:00 am
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61995 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:08 am to
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Are you impaired? Trump calls Fann on the phone and she picks an unknown conspiracy theory Trumphead to lead the audit.



You don't have even a basic understanding of what a forensic audit is, what it produces, and how it is validated.

You are so used to blindly putting faith into your leaders that you don't understand that the findings will speak for themselves. A crooked audit would NOT find something it should find.

Any findings from this audit will be provable, tangible findings.
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:14 am to
Fine by me.. show us all the facts. Both sides.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465862 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:15 am to
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I would hope that they expected this from the beginning. If they didn’t, they’re dumb.

I have $5 that they didn't
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30235 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 9:47 am to
I'm as big of a supporter of the election audits in these states as there is....BUT is there anything in these documents that the AZ GOP doesn't want the general public to see? If not what is the big deal? If so then we have a problem, because that certainly undermines the audit.

Surely they wouldn't have been that stupid.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
62605 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:33 am to
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I'm as big of a supporter of the election audits in these states as there is....BUT is there anything in these documents that the AZ GOP doesn't want the general public to see? If not what is the big deal? If so then we have a problem, because that certainly undermines the audit.


Unless someone for Cyber Ninjas said something along the lines of "even if it isn't there, we're going to find it," nothing that comes out of this means anything.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
42014 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:37 am to
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Fine by me.. show us all the facts.

Both sides.


Only this isn’t happening. Turn over the servers or the Dems can frick off.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75182 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 10:53 am to
That anyone would even pretend that both sides in this issue are being forthcoming is absolutely mystifying to me.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16663 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:05 am to
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The emails need to be produced from every side. Including the Sec of State, Maricopa BOS, DNC, etc.

All of it needs to be out in the open.


That would be a HUGE can of worms. Id love it but it will never happen.

If the FBI were to investigate this they would just determine that there was no intent by the frauders.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14936 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 1:19 am to
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You’re arguing with a ideological zealot. Nothing Tex says is true or based in fact.

Why don't you prove you're not just big mouth, dumbass.


Posted by WizardSleeve
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2011
1905 posts
Posted on 7/21/21 at 1:24 am to
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Why don't you prove you're not just big mouth, dumbass.


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