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ATF-Suppressors & SBRs
Posted on 11/12/26 at 7:11 am
Posted on 11/12/26 at 7:11 am
So with the policy change at ATF on not enforcing NFA rules on suppressors and SBRs, people are going out and picking them up on a 4473 form through an FFL.
Of course this policy can change and the rules of NFA are still in effect, it's just an ATF policy that is changing.
Is this a big giant gotcha in the future? When the policy is changed back to enforcing the NFA and not grandfathering those purchases and instantly making thousands and thousands of people criminals overnight?
I want to go out and buy some now before all that changes but then am worried about changes in the future that could cause a real issue and headache.
Of course this policy can change and the rules of NFA are still in effect, it's just an ATF policy that is changing.
Is this a big giant gotcha in the future? When the policy is changed back to enforcing the NFA and not grandfathering those purchases and instantly making thousands and thousands of people criminals overnight?
I want to go out and buy some now before all that changes but then am worried about changes in the future that could cause a real issue and headache.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 7:39 am to jp4lsu
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So with the policy change at ATF on not enforcing NFA rules on suppressors and SBRs, people are going out and picking them up on a 4473 form through an FFL.
In Louisiana, yes. Standard 4473, wait 5 minutes walk out with your suppressor.
No new paperwork required to possess it. It is treated like any other firearm in that it can be loaned or sold in a private sale.
There is a process to have the ATF remove your name from any past suppressors.
I do not know how it works transporting a suppressor across State lines, esp if going into a State that was not on the lawsuit, so I don't want to mislead anyone.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 7:44 am to jp4lsu
Everyone should buy, fabricate, and 3d print suppressors. If it become a "common use" item, it will be very hard for the ATF to reverse the decision.
Go get one! (Or 4)
Go get one! (Or 4)
Posted on 11/12/26 at 7:52 am to Geauxkart
Good point Geauxkart.
I started reading up on it and the states that are specifically tied to Fed laws, it can really be confusing if you don't know the rules. Because the NFA is still in effect.....just not enforced on these 2 items. I could see this being a huge trap in the future when they reverse this policy. But you make a good point about "common use".
Silencer Shop had a lot to do with this change, so I'm at least going to buy an item or 2 from them to give them a "attaboy".
I started reading up on it and the states that are specifically tied to Fed laws, it can really be confusing if you don't know the rules. Because the NFA is still in effect.....just not enforced on these 2 items. I could see this being a huge trap in the future when they reverse this policy. But you make a good point about "common use".
Silencer Shop had a lot to do with this change, so I'm at least going to buy an item or 2 from them to give them a "attaboy".
Posted on 11/12/26 at 7:53 am to jp4lsu
The incoming Congress will target them with legislation.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:10 am to TrueTiger
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The incoming Congress will target them with legislation.
This is my fear.. I told my wife about this just now, and told her that I needed to go purchase one before this change takes place. Believe it or not, she agreed..
I will be going to Bass Pro Shop this weekend for an early Christmas present for me.Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:45 am to jp4lsu
That’s the beauty of the ATF and all of those federal agencies. They can change the “rules” any time they want because the politicians are too feckless to codify.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:46 am to FinkyStinger
Have the prices on them come down any?
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:48 am to thejudge
No, prices have not come down. If anything, they should increase with the increased purchases.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:49 am to RemyLeBeau
......shall not be infringed.
Buy what you want.
Buy what you want.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:50 am to jp4lsu
I have read (and watched) a few pro-firearm lawyers talk about this. They all said that the law, as written, is dead. The feds refused to appeal the decision. This does not stop a new law from being drafted in the future. If a new law is then drafted, precedent states that there must be time given to register any items that are not currently registered.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 8:53 am to RemyLeBeau
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In Louisiana, yes. Standard 4473, wait 5 minutes walk out with your suppressor.
Can a non-resident with a clean record buy a suppressor in Louisiana?
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:04 am to jp4lsu
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the policy change at ATF
The policy changed because of a court ruling, not because they wanted to do it.
Now you don't need a trust, you don't have to have paperwork, you can transfer at will, you can build your own.
I look for another ruling knocking out the 4473 form for suppressors, they are not firearms.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:07 am to jp4lsu
We all have stuff that was ok, then not ok, then ok again.
Buy and hold.
Buy and hold.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 9:10 am to Friscodog
Apocalypse Sports in Hammond.
Prices are better than B Pro or Cabella.
Louisiana Firearms in BR is a good place to check also.
Prices are better than B Pro or Cabella.
Louisiana Firearms in BR is a good place to check also.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 12:43 pm to UtahCajun
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They all said that the law, as written, is dead.
I didn't get that from what I listened to. The NFA law is still there and the law on suppressors and SBRs are still in there, it's just they are not enforcing it after this Silencer Shop court win.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 12:58 pm to LSUbest
quote:That's not going to happen, they are literally defined as firearms under the GCA.
I look for another ruling knocking out the 4473 form for suppressors, they are not firearms.
Anyone interested should buy a suppressor now. The only thing keeping them from being functionally unobtainable is Trump's pen at this point. Ask yourself if you trust Trump unquestionably vetoing any budget reconciliation package which reinstates and substantially raises the NFA tax.
This post was edited on 11/12/26 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/12/26 at 1:04 pm to UtahCajun
quote:The law certainly isn't dead. The lawsuit succeeded because the Republicans lowered the tax on certain NFA items to $0, which then made it illegal for the ATF to require a tax stamp and the related hoops (because the NFA had been established and upheld as a tax, not regulatory, scheme).
I have read (and watched) a few pro-firearm lawyers talk about this. They all said that the law, as written, is dead. The feds refused to appeal the decision.
But the law is still on the books, and Democrats will 100% raise the tax when they are able. And it will no longer be $200 per item, but something approaching $5,000 or more. And once they do, the injunction against the ATF will no longer apply.
Posted on 11/12/26 at 1:15 pm to BFIV
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Can a non-resident with a clean record buy a suppressor in Louisiana?
Man, IDK.
Can you do the same for any firearm and or magazines?
Now if you were here visiting family and one of them wanted to make a cash sale, I suppose that is ok.
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