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At What Point, Should We Give Credit/Blame for Gains/Losses in the Stock Market?
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:36 pm
I'm curious as to the board's thoughts on when a President should be evaluated for gains/losses in the stock market during their tenure.
I'd like to hear bipartisan thoughts on this. One could argue that Obama shouldn't receive all of the credit for improving the stock market because of the weak numbers he inherited.
Conversely, should Trump be applauded for how well the stock market did in the first 6-9 months after he took office or was that a reflection of Obama handing him a stronger economy?
What does the board say? Is it fair to judge from day 1? 3 months, 6 months? A year?
I'd like to hear bipartisan thoughts on this. One could argue that Obama shouldn't receive all of the credit for improving the stock market because of the weak numbers he inherited.
Conversely, should Trump be applauded for how well the stock market did in the first 6-9 months after he took office or was that a reflection of Obama handing him a stronger economy?
What does the board say? Is it fair to judge from day 1? 3 months, 6 months? A year?
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Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:38 pm to Dignan
At no point
Presidents are not responsible for stock market trends
Presidents are not responsible for stock market trends
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:38 pm to Dignan
Crediting and blaming Presidents for the stock market is dumb full stop
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:38 pm to Dignan
We shouldn't give the president blame/credit for the stock market.
We should focus on real GDP growth.
We should focus on real GDP growth.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:38 pm to Iosh
quote:
Crediting and blaming Presidents for the stock market is dumb full stop
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:39 pm to Dignan
The day before you want the opposite
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:39 pm to Dignan
What did Obama do to create this stronger economy that he supposedly handed to Trump?
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:39 pm to Dignan
at minimum, a year
but I think assigning ownership of the stock markets up and downs to the POTUS is pretty simple minded
judge the economy as a whole
but I think assigning ownership of the stock markets up and downs to the POTUS is pretty simple minded
judge the economy as a whole
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:39 pm to Dignan
quote:
At What Point, Should We Give Credit/Blame for Gains/Losses in the Stock Market?
Never
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:40 pm to Dignan
Never either way, it’s just one indicator that has too many variables both short and long term to really attribute it to one person at one specific time
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:40 pm to Dignan
quote:
At What Point, Should We Give Credit/Blame for Gains/Losses in the Stock Market?
as long as trump keeps making pro-america and pro-business deals and keeps cutting red tape the market will take care of itself so i really dont care about the day-to-day stuff.
it will all be ok.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:42 pm to Dignan
At what point can you prove anything definitely was the cause of anything in the stock market? It is all interpretation and those that sound the smartest might carry the conversation.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:44 pm to slackster
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We should focus on real GDP growth.
And to help separate presidents who took over crap:
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:49 pm to Dignan
The president should be judged on the performance of the overall economy rather than the stock market. Really 3 years is too short but given the nature of elections in our country it will have to do.
Stock market changes are a nice precursor to changes in the overall economy. So I am ok assigning credit/blame to a president given a much shorter time frame since markets can react much more quickly than the overall economy. But it's really just an early prediction. Like preseason ratings or the rating of a recruitment class. It's nice, and gives a good indication of the future...but in the end the performance on the field (employment and wage growth) is what matters.
And to extend an already tortured analogy. The president matters less to the overall economy than a head coach does for the performance of a college football program.
Stock market changes are a nice precursor to changes in the overall economy. So I am ok assigning credit/blame to a president given a much shorter time frame since markets can react much more quickly than the overall economy. But it's really just an early prediction. Like preseason ratings or the rating of a recruitment class. It's nice, and gives a good indication of the future...but in the end the performance on the field (employment and wage growth) is what matters.
And to extend an already tortured analogy. The president matters less to the overall economy than a head coach does for the performance of a college football program.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 1:58 pm to Dignan
Presidents should be monitored on how their policy affects the stock market, but not stock market fluctuation.
President regulation/deregulation causes market to crash - blame president
President regulation/deregulation causes market to surge - praise president
President regulation/deregulation causes market to crash - blame president
President regulation/deregulation causes market to surge - praise president
Posted on 4/2/18 at 2:06 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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What did Obama do to create this stronger economy that he supposedly handed to Trump?
Spent a mountain of federal dollars.
Posted on 4/2/18 at 2:09 pm to slackster
What is the difference between the GDP and the Real GDP?
Posted on 4/2/18 at 2:12 pm to Haughton99
Real gdp is adjusted for inflation
Posted on 4/2/18 at 2:16 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Real gdp is adjusted for inflation
Gotcha. Thanks
Posted on 4/2/18 at 3:13 pm to Iosh
quote:So if a POTUS personally develops policies driving the "E" in market PEG ratios, we should not credit the POTUS?
Crediting and blaming Presidents for the stock market is dumb full stop
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