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re: As a Christian I always wondered how the END TIMES

Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:43 am to
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A) we aren’t in the end of times because there is no antichrist. The Antichrist according to the Bible is very specific in how he will operate.



What if he got a copy of the book and changed his plan?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:44 am to
Progressivism has already crept into a lot of churches in the form of a new apostolic reformation. "Believers" that frequent these churches tend to bite off 100% on radical left leaning beliefs. Had one of them tell me that my social conservative Christian arse was the problem with race relations in this country.

OP, you're absolutely correct.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:49 am to
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A) we aren’t in the end of times because there is no antichrist. The Antichrist according to the Bible is very specific in how he will operate.


The world will essentially be controlled by 10 countries and a leader of that group will be the antichrist. He will seem like a savior - likeable personality - he will rise out of chaos. WHo is to say this person hasn't been born yet?
Posted by Man4others
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:50 am to
Then he wouldn’t be the Antichrist.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:51 am to
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In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary


-George Orwell
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:54 am to
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Doesn’t the scripture say no one will know when the end times begin? If so this isn’t it!


You are confusing the second coming of Christ (No one but the Father knows) with the start of the Tribulation. The tribulation starts with a 7 year treaty with Israel made by the AntiChrist. The critical part is whether you believe in a pre-trib, mid-trib or post-trib rapture.
Posted by Man4others
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:55 am to
It’s possible an Antichrist is born and is a child at the moment. But IMO there is no Antichrist currently trying to take over. I feel we are just in a sporting event designed by God.
Posted by Romans58
Delaware
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:00 am to
Wow....this is exactly what I think. I never thought I’d live through the End Times either, yet here we are. Right is wrong, wrong is right. Brother against brother, children against parents. As in the days of Noah.

God bless you. Maybe we will meet someday...
Posted by Romans58
Delaware
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:06 am to
If you don’t know, we can’t explain it to you.
Posted by baseballcatch77
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:07 am to
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I always find that fascinating about evangelicals. They say they take the Bible literally until Revelations...then its all about interpretations and metaphors.


No sure whats hard to believe. Revelations is about a prophetic vision. Its a much different book than the rest of the NT. Whether you believe in Johns interpretation of his vision is one thing, but understanding why Revelation is interpreted differently than the rest of scripture is a pretty easy concept.
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:15 am to
When we give the dumbest and most immoral people in the world a meaningful voice, our world is headed down.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:21 am to
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Then he wouldn’t be the Antichrist.


Does he not have a mind of his own? If not, wouldn’t that mean God programmed him to do it?
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:36 am to
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Well...Christ’s return is kind of the point of the story


No it's not - seeing God's glory through a relationship of faith and trust is the point on the story.

Christ's return is just the end of this earth. I have a news flash for every person - Christ is "coming back personally" for you anyway...in a handful of years when you die.

Whether this entire world burns up is secondary to the fact we each individually are like a vapor in the first place.

This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by westide
Bamala
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:47 am to
We got twenty years max before Jesus comes back.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:58 am to
I knew things would have to be bad, but I thought surely people would see this evil for what it is. It's like the world has taken a giant stupid pill.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:59 am to
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This is ridiculous. The reason this madness goes on is because good men say nothing. They don't want to risk their purchasing power because who cares if drug use, loneliness, delaying marriage/kids, obesity, suicide, unhappiness, degeneracy are all on the rise the stonk market is up! Muh retail spending is back baby! GDP! GDP! Get more debt buy more useless stuff! Muh Netflix, muh football, muh superhero movie!


The New Testament has worked exactly as the authors intended.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:01 am to
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The New Testament has worked exactly as the authors intended.


I see the hook.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:16 am to
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It’s possible an Antichrist is born and is a child at the moment. But IMO there is no Antichrist currently trying to take over. I feel we are just in a sporting event designed by God.


The world is consistently on the path of globalization of everything. Eventually there will be one currency. Eventually your social status - Your mark - will be your life or death choice. Never imagined it would happen in our lifetime yet when you look at the things happening in the world - It's not far off. The brainwashing ability of the media has made this almost an easy thing to accomplish. I'm with you that its still not realistic - however - putting Jerusalem back on the map in Isreal has me thinking we are closer than previously thought.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:18 am to
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Mo Jeaux


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I see the hook.


I guess there is a hook there.

Kind of like --- Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's yet how many churches pay taxes?
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 6/17/20 at 11:26 am to
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’ve always wondered why the U.S. doesn’t show up as an ally to Israel or anything in Revelation.


This is the point I always bring when discussing the topic. We as a nation (myself included) are so self-centered in our thinking we tend to read the bible, Revelation specifically, and think it about how it goes down from our vantage point.

We as a nation aren't mentioned in Revelation. I don't know what that means but my thought is at that point we are no longer a world power.
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