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re: Army discharging some immigrant recruits

Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:19 am to
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:19 am to
There are those that do not belong in the US Military for various reasons. Even though he was born here, the Ft. Hood shooter comes to mind.

PC kills. If there is a question on someones background. I would rather err on the side of caution.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90318 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:20 am to
quote:

this program was ordered under W

Expanded to include DACA peeps under Barack the Benevolent.
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:20 am to
quote:

We have plenty of Americans who can serve in the American military.


Fatties, lesbians, transgender in need of surgery, mentally challenged, cognitively challenged,

The qualified manpower pool is rather slim for an all volunteer force.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19881 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:25 am to
Common sense would tell you, if you seek out people who are fluent in languages where your enemies live, you are going to risk recruiting....enemies. Thus more thorough background checks, and more denied.

But lets just focus on the fact that they were immigrants, and denied.

Wonder how many white males were denied for failing physicals? But no one fat shaming the military for that? Oh yeah they are US citizens, white, and probably stood during the national anthem as well so they dont count.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:27 am to
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Wonder how many white males were denied for failing physicals


Plenty of white males cannot get a security clearances either...

I am betting most of the "foreign language" speakers were recruited for MOSs that required a Top Secret Clearance and those are even more difficult to get, as they should be...
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:33 am to
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CarrolltonTiger


I don't know why you're being downvoted but you're right.

I'll add to what I mentioned earlier. We need to continue to recruit the most qualified candidates and some of the best ones I've dealt with are older kids who come in to the military with some life experience and kids who come from ethnic families and speak languages other than English. A bilingual or trilingual candidate is highly valuable in many fields. I've even found that a lot of candidates with ethnic backgrounds are sometimes more willing to enlist than US citizens. The only issue with candidates of ethnic backgrounds is discussed in the article.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
52548 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:34 am to
I don't agree with this.


If these folks are willing to serve our nation in return for citizenship then we should be all for this.

I smell frickery with this. The AP story made it out like this was very widespread but could only find 40 instances of this happening.

My guess is that something was amiss with their legal status prompting the discharge but the fricktards won't cover that part.
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:35 am to
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My guess is that something was amiss with their legal status prompting the discharge but the fricktards won't cover that part.


I'm almost willing to bet money that they fricked up to warrant a punitive discharge before they fulfilled their obligation of service in exchange for naturalization.
Posted by John Gotti
Vestavia HIlls, AL
Member since Jul 2013
3498 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:36 am to
quote:

I don't agree with this.


If these folks are willing to serve our nation in return for citizenship then we should be all for this.


exactly

quote:

I smell frickery with this. The AP story made it out like this was very widespread but could only find 40 instances of this happening. My guess is that something was amiss with their legal status prompting the discharge but the fricktards won't cover that part.


and because the media sucks... it could be exactly this too

This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 7:45 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127332 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 7:42 am to
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exactly
You edited out the most important part of his post.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90318 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:00 am to
(((AG)))
@AG_Conservative
You should note the very same expert extensively quoted in the AP article specifically said that it was the Obama admin’s decision to pair the program with DACA “sounded the death knell for the program”. pic.twitter.com/TPr1FHF8Gu

8:00 PM - Jul 5, 2018

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:16 am to
you damn close minded conservatives, radicals and terrorists within the military is just the price that has to be paid for our white privilege.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:19 am to
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How exactly did these guys get let in to the military with “incomplete” background checks?


One word: Obama.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90318 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:20 am to
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How exactly did these guys get let in to the military with “incomplete” background checks?


One word: Obama.

Nope can't pin that on Obama, happening for ever.
Posted by Tiger Lake
On the Lake !
Member since Dec 2016
1254 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:28 am to
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Nope can't pin that on Obama, happening for ever


For you to think Obama did not jam his foot on the accelerator with this shite is just naïve.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
90318 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:30 am to
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For you to think Obama did not jam his foot on the accelerator with this shite is just naïve.

I was talking about the time it takes to do the background checks and to attain a security clearance, I fully understand Obama added DACA dorks into this program.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:32 am to
How about you take it down a notch champ
Posted by Tiger Lake
On the Lake !
Member since Dec 2016
1254 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:35 am to
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How about you take it down a notch champ


Well, since you asked...OK.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63333 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:41 am to
Nice, one-side, article to stoke the "anti-immigrant" flames. So 40/10,000 get cut (that's four-tenths-of-one-percent) and somehow we have a problem?

quote:

Eligible recruits are required to have legal status in the U.S., such as a student visa, before enlisting. More than 5,000 immigrants were recruited into the program in 2016, and an estimated 10,000 are currently serving. Most go the Army, but some also go to the other military branches.


...and here we go:

quote:

Stock said the service members she’s heard from had been told the Defense Department had not managed to put them through extensive background checks, which include CIA, FBI and National Intelligence Agency screenings and counterintelligence interviews. Therefore, by default, they do not meet the background check requirement.


I've seen many birthright citizens take the oath then get discharged numerous reasons, generally for being too fat or simply being nuts. My battalion, and the military reserve component in general, is fixing to cut loose a lot of folks (by orders from SECDEF Mattis) because they're not deployable for one reason or another.

This post was edited on 7/6/18 at 8:44 am
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 7/6/18 at 8:41 am to
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We have plenty of Americans who can serve in the American military.

If we are taking in immigrants, then I highly doubt that.


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