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re: Arizona Governor Kari Lake-Abrams weighs in on abortion

Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:48 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48503 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:48 pm to
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There was no ruling on what would happen if a federal provision was passed. The fact that you don’t support candidates advocating for a federal mandate means you sacrifice babies in California for votes.


Read the decision. Take a wild guess what would happen…You’re not a huge fan of the constitution. We get it. You have made it very very clear. frick the constitution if it gives you a chance to disagree with Trump. So honorable.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 6:50 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49524 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:52 pm to
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Adam Banks


What do you think is the better choice for your vote?

Dems/Biden-Will work to make Roe v Wade the law of the land allowing abortions right up to birth.

GOP/Trump-Let the states decide what is best for them. Note Roe v Wade was overturned due to GOP backed SC justices.

Only one of those choices has the possibility of leading to further restrictions on abortion.

Don't avoid the question. You can't go back to 1950 in one fell swoop.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 6:54 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:57 pm to
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You’re not a huge fan of the constitution. We get it. You have made it very very clear. frick the constitution if it gives you a chance to disagree with Trump. So honorable.


Where in the constitution does it prevent the federal government from banning murder?


They held that ABORTION was not a granted right.


Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48503 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:58 pm to
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Where in the constitution does it prevent the federal government from banning murder?


Not a big 10th Amendment guy? Or just a very weak and confused legal “scholar?”

The truth is neither. You just want to bash Trump. Not real smart because you other option is Biden. Let’s not pretend you care about the unborn.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:58 pm to
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What do you think is the better choice for your vote? Dems/Biden-Will work to make Roe v Wade the law of the land allowing abortions right up to birth. GOP/Trump-Let the states decide what is best for them. Note Roe v Wade was overturned due to GOP backed SC justices. Only one of those choices has the possibility of leading to further restrictions on abortion. Don't avoid the question. You can't go back to 1950 in one fell swoop.



I will vote for pro life representatives and senators.


I will not vote in the Presidential election.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48503 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 6:59 pm to
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I will not vote in the Presidential election.


Which helps Biden, which helps allowing more abortions. Brilliant move, counselor.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:02 pm to
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Not a big 10th Amendment guy? Or just a very weak and confused legal “scholar?”


There are federal murder crimes.

There are federal laws not in the constitution.


There was no federal law passing abortion hence the scotus decision.


Pass a law through Congress and it will stand.


Trump is DRASTICALLY changing the goals of the party.

He is actively trying to diminish the pro life movement.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49524 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:03 pm to
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I will not vote in the Presidential election.



And you do not see how that negatively impacts your desire for a nationwide abortion ban.

Laughable. but expected.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:04 pm to
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Which helps Biden, which helps allowing more abortions. Brilliant move, counselor.


If I elect senators and representatives he will not be able to get a law through.


Trump on the other hand is trying to diminish the pro life movement and push advocates for life to the far periphery of the party.


He is the leader of the party and sets the party platform. The only way to diminish his standing and his control is to set an example and not vote for him.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48503 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:06 pm to
Justify it however you like. Helping Biden helps get babies murdered. You’re disgusting.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:07 pm to
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And you do not see how that negatively impacts your desire for a nationwide abortion ban. Laughable. but expected.



How is Biden going to pass abortion nationally without a compliant Congress?


Conversely what happens to the pro life movement within the GOP if the GOP president clearly wants to take no action and possibly backtrack on the gains that have been made
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74034 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:08 pm to
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I will not vote in the Presidential election.



Thank you for admitting yoh are voting Dem again cause your arse hurt about Orange

Cause we know if Ron said it was states right you would run across the coubtry to vote for him

You have zero principles or convictions
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:08 pm to
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Justify it however you like. Helping Biden helps get babies murdered. You’re disgusting.



So you have no legitimate response because you know I am right.


He is trying to make pro lifers irrelevant.

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48503 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:08 pm to
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There are federal murder crimes. There are federal laws not in the constitution. There was no federal law passing abortion hence the scotus decision. Pass a law through Congress and it will stand.


So, you’re just a very weak and confused “legal scholar”, got it.

quote:

He is actively trying to diminish the pro life movement.


As are you by tacitly supporting Biden. We all see you for who you really are. Just a TDs infested moron without a modicum of legal acumen.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48503 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:09 pm to
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So you have no legitimate response because you know I am right.


What are you talking about? My response is the only rational one. Your position is counterproductive. You’re cutting off your nose to spite your face. You’re not the brightest bulb. Clearly
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 7:10 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:11 pm to
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As are you by tacitly supporting Biden. We all see you for who you really are.



Awfully establishment of you.


Vote for my candidate who sucks and doesn’t represent you because he’s an “R”

Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47709 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:12 pm to
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He is trying to make pro lifers irrelevant.


I knew eventually there would be Republicans for whom Trump wasn’t good enough
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37547 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:13 pm to
Abortion - Democrats killing future democrats since 1973
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31969 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:14 pm to
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Your position is counterproductive. You’re cutting off your nose to spite your face.



The President has no power on this issue OTHER than setting the party’s agenda.


Donald is trying to turn the Republican Party pro choice.

I will vote for Pro Life republicans in congress who if they have any spine will pass a federal mandate in spite of whichever pro choicer (don or Joe) is president
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48503 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 7:15 pm to
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Awfully establishment of you. Vote for my candidate who sucks and doesn’t represent you because he’s an “R”


Just rational. If you care about abortion you would vote for the candidate that can win that most aligns with your views. You’re a defacto vote for Biden…and abortion. You don’t care about the unborn. You’re just a TDS infected moron.
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