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re: Are you for Trump leading a group to negotiate a peace deal between NATO/Russia/Ukraine?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:04 am to AmishSamurai
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:04 am to AmishSamurai
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Cue the Marxists screaming about Logan Act violations in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
i didn't like it when Kerry did it... i wouldn't care for Trump doing it. i hope that doesn't make me marxist.
That being sad, Trump would be doing it in US interest whereas Kerry was not so i don't know if Trump's would be a violation of the Logan Act.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:08 am to 3nOut
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i didn't like it when Kerry did it... i wouldn't care for Trump doing it.
Logan Act would not apply here unless Trump headed a peace group without Biden's permission.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:10 am to GumboPot
It's not unprecedented.
Carter did it to bail out Slick Willie in '94.
Carter did it to bail out Slick Willie in '94.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:11 am to VoxDawg
At Clinton’s request, yea.
Zero chance Biden allows Trump to go anywhere near the situation.
Zero chance Biden allows Trump to go anywhere near the situation.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:16 am to GumboPot
He knows Obama will just F this up royally, so he’s offering help, he’s become quite the politician. I wonder who he thinks did it? SABOTAGE in caps
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:18 am to Indefatigable
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Zero chance Biden allows Trump to go anywhere near the situation.
Your premise assumes Biden's regime has the authority to permit/forbid anything more significant than his ice cream flavor.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:18 am to GumboPot
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The eastern states in Ukraine want to go with Russia too. Ukraine and Russia already attempted a peace deal before the U.S. intervened and prevented it.
You Putin boys are delusional. Zelensky said he wanted to meet w Putin and Putin said no. No negotiations.
You Putineers probably believe in the 98% vote too. Lol.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:21 am to OMLandshark
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we just have to keep sending them as much cash as humanly possible.
I'm old enough to remember when Trump asked for less than $5B in border wall funding and the DS Uniparty had a thermonuclear shite fit at the mere thought.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:23 am to BayouBlitz
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You Putin boys are delusional. Zelensky said he wanted to meet w Putin and Putin said no. No negotiations.
You Putineers probably believe in the 98% vote too. Lol.
A meeting for a peace deal was brokered until Boris Johnson destroyed it
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:26 am to Indefatigable
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How dare the United States not unilaterally dictate foreign policy to sovereign nations!!!!
We should DEFINTIELY make sure that Russia gets to unilaterally determine what its neighbors get to do though.
It's hilarious that people here think Putin is gonna accept a "trust me, bro" as a solid negotiation point
This post was edited on 9/28/22 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:31 am to AmishSamurai
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Cue the Marxists screaming about Logan Act violations in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...
These same people you mention were fine with Kerry negotiating back door deals with Iran during Trump's first term.
Yet you're absolutely correct, they'll be absolutely melting about Trump merely offering his services.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:36 am to upgrayedd
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It's hilarious that people here think Putin is gonna accept a "trust me, bro" as a solid negotiation point
My comment doesn't have anything to do with what Putin would accept.
My comment is addressing the abject absurdity in suggesting that the United States could or should make commitments to Russia concerning the foreign policy decisions of other, sovereign nations.
It isn't any more our place to tell Estonia that it cannot be a part of NATO because Russia really doesn't want it to than it is for Russia to demand that it be able to control the policy of every nation that has ever been administered from Moscow.
Its a completely absurd premise.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:37 am to upgrayedd
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A meeting for a peace deal was brokered until Boris Johnson destroyed it
When are you guys gonna stop defending Putin and Russia, and finally admit that this entire shitshow is their fault?
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:39 am to upgrayedd
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A meeting for a peace deal was brokered until Boris Johnson destroyed it
Turkey has been holding negotiations the entire time. If Ukraine and Russia could come to an agreed cease-fire, it would have happened by now.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:39 am to sta4ever
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When are you guys gonna stop defending Putin and Russia, and finally admit that this entire shitshow is their fault?
I never said this war wasn't "Russia's fault". To act like this is some cut and dry issue with zero historical or political context is asinine and the hallmark of a simpleton. Go put another sunflower on your twitter handle if it makes you feel better, I guess.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:47 am to Chimlim
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It's almost like our current leadership wants a war there.
If you could pocket 10% of our contributions you'd be pro war, too.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 10:53 am to GumboPot
Russia wants the most developed region.
Russia wants the area with minerals.
if you say yes putin accepts peace and owns the best part of Ukraine.
such a deal.
Russia wants the area with minerals.
if you say yes putin accepts peace and owns the best part of Ukraine.
such a deal.
Posted on 9/28/22 at 12:03 pm to CelticDog
Bet. Kerry does it 1 st . He would also frick it up worse, would hope Trump attempts
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