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Are there any posters here that actually defend socialism?

Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:02 am
Posted by Mando
Boston
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:02 am
Was reading some of Bernie's plans and they sound like something straight out of 1952 Soviet Russia.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:03 am to
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Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:05 am to
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Are there any posters here that actually defend socialism?
No. But plenty who accuse other posters of it.
Posted by the_watcher
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:11 am to
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No. But plenty who accuse other posters of it.

If Bernie wins the nomination, will you vote for him?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:12 am to
yes,

there is the one who has the porn star Elsa Jean in his avi
Posted by Walkthedawg
Dawg Pound
Member since Oct 2012
11466 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:13 am to
Joe Rogan, said he would vote for Bernie, what a Dum@ss he is
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:14 am to
If the choice is one between socialism and free market capitalism, no.

If the choice is between socialism and monopolistic state capitalism, the answer is less clear. The latter model is closer to outright communism than the former, it’s just that state ownership of capital is limited so the five year plans are outsourced. But state control of capital is unlimited.

I think I would rather see a system with socialist tax rates and aggressive implementation of antitrust law than one with socialist tax rates and state capitalism.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 7:19 am
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:15 am to
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No. But plenty who accuse other posters of it.


'Wasn't tarzana pretty out there? I'll apologize in advance if I'm wrong on that one.

We definitely don't have as many as some on this board would have you believe.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7832 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:20 am to
I’ve got a good friend who posts here who is a Bernie fan. What I surmise from him is that “socialism implemented perfectly would be perfect”.

However he is also a realist and laughs off a good number of the socialist platforms because in the end he’s pragmatic and knows shite like the Green New Deal is a pandering tactic and impossible to implement.

Also, he's reasonable to discuss these things with. Today all we ever see is how bad either the left or right is. It’s nice to be able to bridge that gap.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56365 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:22 am to
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Are there any posters here that actually defend socialism?



There are 3 classes of people on this board who truly believe in socialism.

The "Democrats" - these are the run of the mill liberals on this board. They believe in socialism, are very willing to get there slowly bit by bit, and use terms like "Democratic Socialism"

The "Fake Libertarians/Conservatives" - These are just like the ones above, but they really believe that pretending they are something that they are not gives credibility to their stance (which is the goal).

The "Nutjobs" - These are the guys who are openly unabashedly communist/socialist. They have given up on rising to the top themselves. To them, it's seems easier to implement a government controlled economy.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:22 am to
In theory it should lift all boats to make a more harmonious society.

Can it ever be implemented by humans in that way? Absolutely not.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:23 am to
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“socialism implemented perfectly would be perfect”.




Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34867 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:24 am to
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Are there any posters here that actually defend socialism?


I'll defend the 'mercy' that is (supposedly) the First Principle of Socialism. The Good Lord charged His Church to commit to caring for their 'weaker brethren'...if we hope for the same Mercy.

But Jesus' Mercy is QUALIFIED, and so should any form of Systematic Mercy (I.e., Socialist/Marxist, Egalitarian Ideology) be. Lest it be found subsidizing the very character (or lack of) traits that will destroy all concerned. "Behold, there is a way that seemeth right unto man, but the end thereof is destruction". Unqualified mercy is bs.
Posted by Summer of George
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:25 am to
Any democrat does by default
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51475 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:26 am to
Ralph Wiggums.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:27 am to
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Are there any posters here that actually defend socialism?


There are a lot of losers and soyboys on this site who would love socialism.
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131250 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:27 am to
There are plenty. They are easy to spot as they always claim to be “libertarian”.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24724 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:34 am to
Bernie is a commie.
Posted by Music_City_Tiger
Nashville, TN
Member since Feb 2018
1087 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:37 am to
Yeah, frick that shite... I'll take Liberty.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:37 am to
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Ralph Wiggums.


that's the one I was trying to recall

of course there was the infamous Rex, who bailed out when Trump won
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