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re: Appeals Court Rejects Request to Immediately Restore Travel Ban

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Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:13 am to
Serious question:


What is the difference between this ban and the Obama ban of Iraqi immigrants a few years ago?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:14 am to
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Appeals Court Rejects Request to Immediately Restore Travel Ban
Schumer claims this may be basis for a filibuster of Trump's SCOTUS nominee.

Actually what it is though is a carte blanche ticket for Trump to aggressively nominate übercons to the judiciary. It's a very poor judicial gambit. Also provides rationale and license to go nuclear with SCOTUS appts. I guess these judicial activists cannot help themselves, but they are poking a hornets nest.

At this point, anyone thinking Trump will take prisoners in the event Kennedy, RBG, or Breyer slots open has lost their mind.

The appeals court rejection constitutes inconceivable overreach. Libs will see it as a huge win. It isn't. The public will see it for what it is. So will Trump. Rightly so. Insofar as packing the courts with überconservatives is the likely endpoint, we all lose a little in the result.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:15 am to
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What is the difference between this ban and the Obama ban
Leftist judicial overreach is the difference. That's it.
Posted by TakingStock
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:15 am to
The blood will be on that judge's hands (along with the hands of all liberals) when the next terror attack happens. Sad, but true.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:17 am to
How many fatal terrorists attacks have bee launched by refugees in the US?

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I'm no lawyer, but how can you justify passing these sorts of "emergency" EO's to prevent actions from happening that have never occurred before?
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 7:32 am
Posted by gthog61
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:17 am to
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Good.



Are you going to live in a police no go zone when they start popping up?

A God damned obvious disaster in Europe for all the world to see and you mother frickers not only do not want to stop it, you want to speed it up.

Tell us what we should do when demand for local sharia start popping up, as they ALWAYS do whenever Muslims pass a certain % of the population.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:17 am to
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and his Chief of Staff is the Nativist Kook behind Breitbart. ???
Really. ???

Do tell.

Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:18 am to
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How many fatal terrorists attacks have bee launched by immigrants in the US?


WTF? They were all born here
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:19 am to
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Good this was a disaster
Posted by imjustafatkid
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:20 am to
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How many fatal terrorists attacks have bee launched by immigrants in the US?


Irrelevant.
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:20 am to
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"(f) Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."



8 U.S. Code § 1182 has been amended significantly since its enactment.

For example, the 1965 Hart-Cellar act states: "...No person shall receive any preference or priority or be discriminated against in the issuance of an immigrant visa because of his race, sex, nationality, place of birth, or place of residence..."

That's just one example of many that have restricted the code you are all relying on like it's the end all be all of immigration policy. There are certainly legal issues to be sorted out here, and that's what the courts are set up for. So, instead of criticizing every court decision that doesn't go your way, everyone needs to do at least a minimal amount of research before having such a strong opinion. 1182(f) does not give unchecked power to the president to indiscriminately ban immigration. Try again.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:20 am to
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How many fatal terrorists attacks have bee launched by immigrants in the US?
You have got to be kidding!

Why don't we give you the mulligan you were unwilling to give Conway, and let you just start that rhetorical over.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:21 am to
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Appeals Court Rejects Request to Immediately Restore Travel Ban Appeals Court Rejects Request to Immediately Restore Travel Ban Checks and balances at work, folks


Isn't it funny that the same checks and balances didn't work under the Obama administration. The court order ruling against Obama's immigration EO was simply ignored.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:21 am to
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Really?



My bad. Chief Strategist, not Chief of Staff.

#alternatefacts
#ptsdfrombowlinggreenmassare
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:23 am to
A new shill on the board
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:23 am to
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It's universally accepted by the legal community that the US cannot limit or ban immigration for *any* reason.


You are lying.

Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:23 am to
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How many fatal terrorists attacks have bee launched by immigrants in the US?


This Bitch came here through the visa program, immigrated here to get married. How many did she help kill, 14 and about 25 seriously injured.

Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:25 am to
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How many fatal terrorists attacks have bee launched by immigrants in the US?


you've gone full retard
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:26 am to
I wonder if San Bernardino crossed his mind?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/5/17 at 7:26 am to
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how can you justify passing these sorts of "emergency" EO's to prevent actions from happening that have never occurred before?


It's pretty easy. We want to keep up the record. I'm assuming it may have something to do with ISIS and their stated goal of...

-killing us all or making us submit to their caliphate
-using the cover of refugees to get head chopper offers into our country.

The arguments never mention that the people have changed and the tactics have changed.

I really hope the liberal love affair with Islam doesn't lead to eventual bad things for our country. The problem is that if you are right no big deal. You just get to call me a chicken that worried about nothing. If I'm right, people will die at the hands of terrorists.

Sounds like a game of chicken with a semi-versus a tricycle to me but whatever. As long as you guys feel comfortable with either outcome...
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 7:43 am
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