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re: Anytime We Are Convinced of American Infallibility, Just Recall the Era of Freedom Fries
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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We lost the War on Drugs a long time ago
And the WOD created the fentanyl crisis
What is your solution pray tell...
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Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:05 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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Your understanding of the US Constitution is ... deficient.
no son it's spot on you're a blithering idiot.
under what precedent? the international law of public opinion? the do the right thing law as you understand the baby jesus? these are stateless actors operating in international waters, they're not protected by govenment.
the notion that we owe these people american due process is absurd.
even rand paul has backed off that position.
be honest child if this were any other president except for trump you'd be ok with it.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:20 am to dickkellog
quote:Are you ever NOT angry?
dickkellog
Have a beer on me.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 10:56 am to RFK
Cannabis is native to Asia.
Bourbon is American.
Bourbon is American.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:09 am to RelentlessAnalysis
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Are you ever NOT angry?
so in other words you couldn't think of anything else say, thanks for playing kid.
Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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Every admin since Nixon has fought, and lost, the WOD.
How should we define victory? The complete eradication of all illegal controlled substances from the face of the earth? And if that is objectively impossible, does that mean we shouldn’t bother to try and minimize its importation?
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Your ignorance of basic facts is showing.
Indeed
Posted on 11/22/25 at 11:23 am to RFK
International law. 
as I said. Your legal acumen is zero.
as I said. Your legal acumen is zero. This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 11:24 am
Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:24 pm to dickkellog
“ They aren't American citizens nor are they on American soil. They are basically war combatants, terrorists, they have no right to due process.”
This precedent:
I don’t like it, but there it is.
ETA: Just noticed the “not on American soil” business. I thought it was about protecting immigrants from being exported. My apologies.
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under what precedent? the international law of public opinion?
This precedent:
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In 1903, the Court in the Japanese Immigrant Case reviewed the legality of deporting an alien who had lawfully entered the United States, clarifying that an alien who has entered the country, and has become subject in all respects to its jurisdiction, and a part of its population could not be deported without an opportunity to be heard upon the questions involving his right to be and remain in the United States.1 In the decades that followed, the Supreme Court maintained the notion that once an alien lawfully enters and resides in this country he becomes invested with the rights guaranteed by the Constitution to all people within our borders.2 Eventually, the Supreme Court extended these constitutional protections to all aliens within the United States, including those who entered unlawfully, declaring that aliens who have once passed through our gates, even illegally, may be expelled only after proceedings conforming to traditional standards of fairness encompassed in due process of law.3 The Court reasoned that aliens physically present in the United States, regardless of their legal status, are recognized as persons guaranteed due process of law by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments.4 Thus, the Court determined, [e]ven one whose presence in this country is unlawful, involuntary, or transitory is entitled to that constitutional protection.5 Accordingly, notwithstanding Congress’s indisputably broad power to regulate immigration, fundamental due process requirements notably constrained that power with respect to aliens within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.6
I don’t like it, but there it is.
ETA: Just noticed the “not on American soil” business. I thought it was about protecting immigrants from being exported. My apologies.
This post was edited on 11/22/25 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 11/22/25 at 12:42 pm to RFK
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For those of us who remember
I remember.
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For those of us who remember, it was hailed as the culinary equivalent of Normandy in reverse. Patriots everywhere rejoiced. For three glorious years, school lunches and Applebee’s menus taught children that geography is flexible and carbs can be rebranded for liberty.
None of that happened. It was roundly ridiculed.
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Next time someone insists American instincts are infallible...
...will be the first time.
How can you be so wrong to start a thread?
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RFK
Oh, nvm, carry on with your crazy...
Posted on 11/22/25 at 1:34 pm to soonerinlOUisiana
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How does telling the French to go fuuck themselves equate to American fallibility? Sorry, just not seeing the relationship between the two.
You probably can't see it because:
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France declined to co-sign the Iraq War adventure
...is actually the French telling the Americans to "go fuuck themselves". (What are you, Dutch?)
Posted on 11/22/25 at 3:56 pm to Harry Boutte
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...is actually the French telling the Americans to "go fuuck themselves". (What are you, Dutch?
Not really. The French haven’t been fighters since the napoleonic wars, and those armies were largely composed of conscripts from conquered nations.
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