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re: Anyone here read the SCOTUS ruling on Presidential immunity?

Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:13 am to
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162356 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:13 am to
Apparently, Thomas dressed down Garland's Jack Smith appointment as SC.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26888 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:14 am to
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Kagan isn't DEI. I think she's wrong on virtually every issue but she's smart


I'm not a court junkie but that's always been my impression. Sotomayor is the dumbass, and I think a lot of people get them confused.

Fortunately for both of them Ketanji displaced the "wise latina" as the most obviously inept & unqualified justice, and her name is easy to remember.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
138911 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:15 am to
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I’m worried about what the left will
Do when Trump wins.



Riots
Pandemics
Etc.


If you don't live in or near a liberal shithole I think you have nothing to worry about. But if you are in Portland, Seattle, DC, NYC, etc. all bets are off.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24815 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:25 am to
Facebook is kindergarten compared to what they are scared and outraged about it on Twitter X
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35807 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:25 am to
It was a sane decision overall, just codified. If times were saner, there probably would not be hardly any uproar over this, because it was always understood to be the case. The President needs to listen to advice from his advisors and cabinet members without having a lawyer constantly vetting each and every step. He has to be able at times to act unilaterally on that advice under his belief in what the statute allows.

The only question I have for a sitting President, though is where is the ultimate line on official vs unofficial. The court says it can and should be determined by the lower court Judge. If this were Bush, Clinton or even Obama, I would say no big deal. But in this age of Lawfare , it is not as cut and dry. Maybe Shakespeare was right, " the first thing we do is kill all the lawyers"
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
35684 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:28 am to
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though is where is the ultimate line on official vs unofficial.

My only criticism of the decision is that they muddied the waters a bunch by trying to distinguish between Trump's conversations with the AG and Pence. And then made it worse by precluding POTUS' motivation or intent in the evaluation.

They should have left those parts out of it and let Chutkin/DCCOA rule first.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
35807 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:33 am to
Yep. That was gratuitous and unnecessary. You have to give the trial court some latitude.
Posted by Datbawwwww
Member since Oct 2023
468 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 10:08 am to
He absolutely did. Overtly called out the unconstitutional appointment.
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