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re: Any truth to this end-times teaching?

Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 4:55 pm to
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Why no one should give their crocodile tears any credence. They only want to conquer and aren't capable of winning in battle, so they cower behind the innocent knowing we wont do what it takes to demolish them. Though sounds like that cemetery sounds like a good spot for a pig farm.



The claim you are responding to isn’t true. Muslims do in deed have a cemetery there but not to prevent Jesus from coming back (in the Quran Jesus also returns) They don’t think it prevents Jesus because in Islam Jesus isn’t Jewish, or divine, but is instead a Muslim prophet.

This is upsetting to Jews because they believe the messiah isn’t Jesus and has not come, and will be Jewish and have to walk through those gates.

There’s no biblical theologian or religious scholar in the world that thinks Jesus is prevented from coming back because Muslims buried their dead there
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:00 pm to
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Do you have any scripture or links to provide some context?




Posted by Antoninus
Ravenna
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:01 pm to
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Any truth to this end-times teaching?
Well, halfwits have been preaching about the "end times" being imminent for 2000 years so far and nothing has happened, so I doubt it.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:06 pm to
I don't doubt a Second Coming for one second. What saddens me is we were given a 'ministry of reconciliation' but we prefer to invest in other matters, such as End Times and the likes.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:08 pm to
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Well, halfwits have been preaching about the "end times"


So anyone who has different beliefs than you is a "halfwit"?

You sound like a dumb redneck.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
3233 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:08 pm to
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All nations will turn against Israel and prepare to attack
no that is not what the Bible reveals. The antichrist will be attacking Israelis. the part you think is against Israel is really the nations of the world turning against the antichrist. however, it is really God luring the armies of the world to judgment at the valley of Megiddo.
Posted by Ribbed
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:10 pm to
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Is this what the Apostle Paul did?

Gonna need some context.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 5:12 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:11 pm to
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Therefore if Satan can maneuver his pawns into destroying Israel, then that makes god a liar, thus a defeated god.

What if it's rebuilt at a later time? That's certainly plausible.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 5:48 pm to
There should be a warning in this thread that a tiny minority of Christians subscribe to the ideas typically expressed by evangelicals who showed up about 1800 years after the church was established.

Listening to them you would almost believe jews have special dispensation and are not required to submit to Jesus Christ... that God is just going to forget all that and honor the heretic Jew at the end times.

But the Jew that God honors will be a Christian, or he will go where other heretics go. Not new Jerusalem.
Posted by Goombaw
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 6:51 pm to
Read Isaiah 53 to hear the prayer of the nation of Israel when they realize their rejection of Jesus was wrong. There will be a remnant of Abraham spared in the Great Tribulation because they acknowledge Jesus as Messiah.

The fact that Israel exists today is a miracle that should signal to us all that this world doesn’t have much longer. Those writers were lacking faith and could not see how it could ever happen, so they came up with your “replacement theology” and substituted the church for Israel in prophecy. They were wrong then, and you’re wrong now. The church will be gone, we are the Bride of Christ, raptured before the Tribulation.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 6:52 pm
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:00 pm to
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Any truth to this end-times teaching?


Yes
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:04 pm to
It’s plausible
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19777 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:08 pm to
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What if I told you that the nation of Israel circa 2023 is just a nation that was formed in 1948 and has no relation to the biblical Israel. The church is now Israel.


Then you would be 1000% wrong on all accounts
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19777 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:13 pm to
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dang Protestants with their third temple nonsense. Pretty clear in the Bible that Jesus and his church were the third temple


Again wrong… nothing scriptural supports this at all. Our personal bodies are the temple of God not the temple to be rebuilt for Jews. Our personal bodies hold the Holy Spirit if you are a Christian
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
60917 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:15 pm to
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What if I told you that the nation of Israel circa 2023 is just a nation that was formed in 1948 and has no relation to the biblical Israel. The church is now Israel.



Wow. What an unoriginal lie.

Romans 11: 26 And in this way all Israel will be saved, as it is written,
The Deliverer will come from Zion,
he will banish ungodliness from Jacob”;

27 “and this will be my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.”
28 ¶ As regards the gospel, they are enemies for your sake. But as regards election, they are beloved for the sake of their forefathers.
29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
30 For just as you were at one time disobedient to God but now have received mercy because of their disobedience,
31 so they too have now been disobedient in order that by the mercy shown to you they also may now receive mercy


The Gentile church isn’t Israel and Israel isn’t the Gentile church. God had a plan for both
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 7:21 pm
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19777 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:20 pm to
Not sure why non Christian’s and Catholics try to discuss prophecy that they don’t even believe in. It’s so weird. Non Christians don’t believe and Catholics think everything other than the 2nd coming has been fulfilled in 70 AD.

When many many prophecies about the same topics as the destruction of the (3rd) temple were not fulfilled in 70AD and is not a description of the 2nd coming or millennial reign.

Example when did the Jews flee to Bozrah (Petra) to survive from Nero?
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19777 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:23 pm to
Revelator love you stand for truth brother.

The “church” and Israel are 2 different entities entirely neither replaces the other. And when I say church I’m not talking about a denomination.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
19777 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:26 pm to
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Right if Jews don’t believe in Christ how’s that gonna play in the end times


They will go to Hell. That is exactly the reason for the Tribulation period. It’s all about the salvation of the Jewish Nation. And when they will call upon Jesus then he will return to save them physically and spiritually.
Posted by Bayoutigre
29.9N 92.1W
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:28 pm to
the nation of israel are the descendants Abraham and Isaac the 12 tribes or sons of jacob,not a physical place.god turned his back on Jerusalem long ago the rabbis were praticing idolotry,had them slain and allowed other nations to pilage jerusalem and steal holy artifacts and bring them to Babylon.God sent the righteous ones far and wide .Modern Israel created in 1948 by the UN and Rothchild family and the UK.(Jews) were brought in from eastern Europe and Russia,many of these people were not blood jews but forced into Judaism by the king,they are Ashkenazi,from kazaria.We are near the end times ,but not the end of the world,the end of an era.
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