re: Another example of the problem with policing in America

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Those are most certainly problems that need to be solved. However. The fact that even when you get past the qualified immunity committing a straight-up felony as a police officer doesn't get you in any real trouble. Lying on a police report that lands somebody in jails for days weeks or even months is viewed as some sort of violation of policy. Your average E2 in the military gets in more trouble for showing up late to work too often than a cop does for committing a felony on the job

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It's a union thing. For example in my hometown we had a school resource officer dating a student in the school. He got suspended and can't be the school resource officer now but he's still on the force full pay. 1 write up they will disappear off his record eventually... He's also illegally kicked people's doors in but because both actions weren't related for his union he's immune from being fired for them. He's got a frick up the same way twice apparently ....

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What you think would happen if we had body cams on people at their professions?


You would see a lot of people doing their jobs correctly, and a lot doing them shitty

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Yes but those people don't have the force of law supporting their actions where they can kidnap you tie you up and put you in a cage. At the end of the day that's what an arrest is. We just have decided it's okay in certain situations for obvious reasons. But it's still a kidnapping.

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Should we put body cams on nurses at long term care facilities

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probably actually now that you mentioned it. But of course that's so private Enterprise not a government worker. Still you wouldn't hurt my feelings. In a situation where the general Public's safety is at risk and yeah cameras are probably a good idea.

But at the end of the day comparing what can happen to you with a bad police officer versus what can happen to you with a bad teacher is silly. There's just no real comparison.

The problem is that there are very real problems on both sides.

There are definitely scumbag/bully/incompetent cops who do illegal things and then aggressively try to cover it up.

But it's also true that many cops have to deal with absolute shite bags all day who are overly aggressive and non compliant for no good reason.

We unfortunately have to have aggressive policing in this country because we have this feral subset of the population that refuses to behave.

Regardless, all police should wear body cams. They catch the bad actors on both sides.

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There are definitely scumbag/bully/incompetent cops who do illegal things and then aggressively try to cover it up

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If this was the only problem I wouldn't even consider it a problem. I mean it's bad but no profession is perfect

The problem is there's basically no such thing as a video with a shitty cop where the supposedly good cops aren't there watching. Worse. Often if the video doesn't show up immediately the entire department covers shite up and then when the video comes out it's like whoops

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But it's also true that many cops have to deal with absolute shite bags all day who are overly aggressive and non compliant for no good reason

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the overwhelming majority of people the police deal with are perfectly decent citizens. If I'm expected to recognize that most cops are good then they should do me the same fricking favor and be polite if I want to know something like why I was pulled over without getting all in their ego and refusing to tell me. I'm extremely polite when I get pulled over but I'm not what one might call cooperative. I am yes sir no sir thank you sir here's all of the stuff I'm supposed to give you sir. But I'm not answering questions I don't have to answer. I'm not doing your field sobriety test because it's bullshite. But even when I don't do those things it's going to be no thank you officer I'm going to restrict myself to the things I'm required

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Regardless, all police should wear body cams. They catch the bad actors on both sides

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and it should be a fireable offense if not an actual crime when they intentionally turn their body cameras off at any point during an incident and that includes turning the sound off

Thank God for that camera. That guy would have done serious jail time.Now he will be in the $$$.


Some cops just should not be cops. That dummy is one. They can be more dangerous than the criminals.

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You need to calm waaaaay the hell down.

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Apologies. But it's just really annoying to me that probably the worst that's going to happen to this cop is he will get fired. If some miracle from Heaven occurs he might get charged with some small crime and get probation for a year. Despite the fact that what he did was fricking felony assault with a weapon

How bout awaiting the outcome of the investigation into the Chief before going off. Is he an arse for the way he acted, yes. A competent and trained officer would not have acted like that given the info provided in the incident. But when he is held accountable for his actions will you still be saying all cops are shite? How bout judging the individual and not the whole for a singular act.

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Qualified immunity should not apply here. The cop was clearly not on duty

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you're right it probably won't apply but I guarantee they still won't come after him hard. I've seen things at least this bad for the guy ends up getting probation for a year or some bullshite like that. They always knock down the charge to the minimum thing of it and get away with. The prosecutors do that because they're afraid to piss off the rest of the cops

Just playing devils advocate. Could any of the stuff in the police report have happened prior to the security camera? Or did i miss something from the story?