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re: And so the reparations talk begins
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:15 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:15 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
it's up there with civil war part 2 threads
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:15 pm to buffbraz
quote:Not really. ALL of them murdered previous cultures of indigenous nations who murdered previous cultures of indigenous nations, who murdered prev...
Native Americans would have an argument to be paid first if reparations were approved.
Also don't forget, lineage of the people who SOLD Africans into slavery needs to be determined. THEY are here also.
I'm going to Rome to demand MY reparations... and tear down that oppressive coliseum.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:16 pm to Allthatfades
When are white people going to get our reparations from black people for all of the violence they have inflicted upon us and all of the money they have cost us?
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:17 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Just like thousands of Japanese Americans were alive in 1985 that suffered in internment camps.
The United States in that case was involved in a "taking", a case could be made and was that just compensation be paid, see Constitution. The examples you are giving are not taking, nor is there any obligation to pay.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:17 pm to jatilen
quote:Paid for by taxpayers who had literally nothing to do with the internment.
The reparations only went to those who were actually interned.
I'm sure it would not be hard at all to turn up a list of hundreds of thousands of living black citizens who were denied access to federal mortgages based on redlining.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:18 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Who is paying the reparations again?
Money print. Dilute everyone else’s wealth.
Honestly I would be all for it if I actually thought it would work, but there is simply no way that it can
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:18 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:Which is why Scrub ignores takings, it doesn't fit his show me the money mantra.
The United States in that case was involved in a "taking", a case could be made and was that just compensation be paid, see Constitution. The examples you are giving are not taking, nor is there any obligation to pay.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:18 pm to lsu480
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When are white people going to get our reparations from black people for all of the violence they have inflicted upon us and all of the money they have cost us?
That is about how ignorant this guy is legally.
If I get in a car wreck and the black person doesn't have insurance, shouldn't the federal government get me a new car?
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I'm sure it would not be hard at all to turn up a list of hundreds of thousands of living black citizens who were denied access to federal mortgages based on redlining.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:What fricking documentation would you have for that?
I'm sure it would not be hard at all to turn up a list of hundreds of thousands of living black citizens who were denied access to federal mortgages based on redlining.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:20 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Paid for by taxpayers who had literally nothing to do with the internment. I'm sure it would not be hard at all to turn up a list of hundreds of thousands of living black citizens who were denied access to federal mortgages based on redlining.
That is not a taking and those black people have recourse under federal law if its a federal program.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:20 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:On top of the general backdrop of violent racial terror visited upon them by their fellow citizens (without penalty) and by LE directly? Let's see:
How did they suffer?
--couldn't vote
--redlining - couldn't get a mortgage despite earnings and credit equal to white counterparts
--limited ability to participate in the GI Bill
--de facto intentionally excluded from Social Security
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:20 pm to Allthatfades
“Begins”
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:20 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
quote:They were also given vast swaths of real estate (i.e. they got their 40 acres.)
Native Americans would have an argument to be paid first if reparations were approved.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:21 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:How much does that cost us?
--couldn't vote
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:21 pm to Big Scrub TX
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--couldn't vote --redlining - couldn't get a mortgage despite earnings and credit equal to white counterparts --limited ability to participate in the GI Bill --de facto intentionally excluded from Social Security
Those are not takings, if my grandmother didn't get all of her federal money for social security... there is no recourse. The federal government doesn't owe anything.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:21 pm to Big Scrub TX
quote:In such beautiful locales!
They were also given vast swaths of real estate (i.e. they got their 40 acres.)
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:21 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:You are obviously a lawyer concerned only with technical matters. To that end - I'll repeat - there was no court case that determined it was a taking that must be compensated for.
The United States in that case was involved in a "taking", a case could be made and was that just compensation be paid, see Constitution. The examples you are giving are not taking, nor is there any obligation to pay.
And I have never alleged there is some legal "obligation" to pay. It's simply the correct moral action.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:22 pm to Big Scrub TX
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They were also given vast swaths of real estate (i.e. they got their 40 acres.)
I understand why a Democrat like you may support it, but I think it's misguided and disturbing to round up African Americans and place them in reservations.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 1:24 pm to Big Scrub TX
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there was no court case that determined it was a taking that must be compensated for.
Of course, because they are clearly not taking cases. The government is not obligated to give you something, they can.
What you are trying to say is black people weren't given something, that's not what happens in reparations... its about the damages of the taking or damages caused.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 1:26 pm
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