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re: And so the reparations talk begins
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:37 pm to Allthatfades
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:37 pm to Allthatfades
If this is what they want, give them something, but when it runs out, its done. The problem is they will take this money and go buy the next PS5 or Jordans and will be out of money ASAP.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:38 pm to momentoftruth87
They can send me a bill.
Can use the extra toilet paper.
Can use the extra toilet paper.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:40 pm to Allthatfades
I think if there is another stimulus check Trump should call it reparations. Say that at some point, everyone has had to face some kind of oppression, therefore everyone is getting a check for reparations.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:40 pm to Allthatfades
quote:She's the a-hole behind the 1619 project. I reject much of what she says.
By Nikole Hannah-Jones
But why do people - as a principle - have a problem with some sort of redress for Jim Crow? There are literally millions of living Americans who were persecuted during this time. And this persecution DID have huge impacts on their ability to build heritable wealth.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:41 pm to Allthatfades
this is a non starter for congress it has never been taken serious and with a Republican controled house and Presidency do you think its got a chance? i doubt it can even get on the house floor for a vote.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:41 pm to Big Scrub TX
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heritable wealth.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:41 pm to momentoftruth87
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but when it runs out, its done.
I would be find with it IF there was a stopping point. The problem is, like with all other social programs, welfare, and other experiments however well meaning they might be are ALWAYS bastardized and expanded to put more people on the government teet...
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:42 pm to hawkeye007
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this is a non starter for congress it has never been taken serious and with a Republican controled house and Presidency do you think its got a chance? i doubt it can even get on the house floor for a vote.
It isn't taken seriously because legally it can't really be done.
Tomorrow there will be yet another stupid thread on reparations. (eye roll)
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:43 pm to Allthatfades
I’m all for it. Can use some of the long term money we save by eliminating welfare and shite
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:44 pm to Allthatfades
Liquidate the NYT and split it between the blacks who can prove that their grandparents were slaves.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:44 pm to Big Scrub TX
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But why do people - as a principle - have a problem with some sort of redress for Jim Crow? There are literally millions of living Americans who were persecuted during this time. And this persecution DID have huge impacts on their ability to build heritable wealth.
Welfare and other forms of governmental assistance to include all the equal opportunity stuff passed and held up over time, not enough for you?
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:46 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
They interviewed a lady before the Tulsa rally and her thing was the government owed those in Tulsa reparations due to the riots in Tulsa. She made no mention of slavery for this.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:46 pm to Big Scrub TX
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But why do people - as a principle - have a problem with some sort of redress for Jim Crow?
Because you will be Economically punishing millions of people who had nothing to do with Jim Crow.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:47 pm to Big Scrub TX
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But why do people - as a principle - have a problem with some sort of redress for Jim Crow? There are literally millions of living Americans who were persecuted during this time. And this persecution DID have huge impacts on their ability to build heritable wealth.
Do you think it honestly stops here? I mean seriously that’s why I can’t take people seriously especially during these times when everyone is calling for drastic steps. Reparations, then it’s not enough give more, then it’s to other groups, then it’s not just money it’s jobs, land/property etc.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:47 pm to Big Scrub TX
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There are literally millions of living Americans who were persecuted during this time.
Since it was legal until Brown, not sure what the issue is. If the schools were equal than no damage, also there was no taking. A State can actually shut down all their schools, although I have seen some State constitutions that say education is right, which makes no sense.
There are no damages and the State is not really obligated anyhow.
What exactly would the reparations be for? (I'm confused)
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:48 pm to The Maj
quote:Whites received welfare also.
Welfare and other forms of governmental assistance to include all the equal opportunity stuff passed and held up over time, not enough for you?
I don't see how this doesn't resonate with people:
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Just after the federal government decided that black people were undeserving of restitution, it began bestowing millions of acres in the West to white Americans under the Homestead Act, while also enticing white foreigners to immigrate with the offer of free land. From 1868 to 1934, the federal government gave away 246 million acres in 160-acre tracts, nearly 10 percent of all the land in the nation, to more than 1.5 million white families, native-born and foreign. As Merritt points out, some 46 million American adults today, nearly 20 percent of all American adults, descend from those homesteaders. “If that many white Americans can trace their legacy of wealth and property ownership to a single entitlement program,” Merritt writes, “then the perpetuation of black poverty must also be linked to national policy.”
So 40 acres and a mule was reneged upon, and then blacks were explicitly precluded from wealth-building homesteading which greatly helped to create the middle class in the US.
How about if we tied any reparations to those specific 20% of Americans?
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:48 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
quote:So Jim Crow in your mind is reduced to "separate but equal" schools?
Since it was legal until Brown, not sure what the issue is. If the schools were equal than no damage, also there was no taking. A State can actually shut down all their schools, although I have seen some State constitutions that say education is right, which makes no sense.
There are no damages and the State is not really obligated anyhow.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
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And this persecution DID have huge impacts on their ability to build heritable wealth.
A lot of things have huge impacts on people not being able to build wealth.
Life isnt fair.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:50 pm to Allthatfades
Ancestry says I'm 2%-4% black and I bet a lot of people in the South have a % of some level. Going by the beloved one drop rule I want my check also.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 12:50 pm to oogabooga68
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Because you will be Economically punishing millions of people who had nothing to do with Jim Crow
Hard to believe some can't comprehend this.
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