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re: Ancient Stone Carvings-Comet(s) Hitting Earth app.10,950 BC (p14, Shermer concedes...)
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:02 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Posted on 4/23/17 at 8:02 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Red rain is a very interesting subject. I have heard of red snows being attributed to volcanos.
Red Tides, or Crimson Tides, are caused by algae blooms in oceans and rivers and can be devastating to plant and animal life. The red algae bloom is often triggered by an excess of nutrients in the body of water. The algae then reproduces rapidly, depleting the water of its oxygen. This causes amphibians to leap out (plague of frogs), fish kills (which attract flies), etc.
The idea of a red tide, a locust swarm, and a volcanic eruption coinciding seems unlikely, but plausible, especially if the locust swarm was triggered by the red tide.
Remember the plagues:
Nile turns red (red tide)
Frogs (forced out of water by red tide)
Nats (insects feasting on fish kill)
Sickness of the animals (animals infected by nats and drinking infected water)
Boils (nat bites get infected)
Fire and brimstone (volcanic eruption)
Locusts (stirred up by either the red tide or the fire and brimstone triggering swarm)
Darkness (volcanic ash cloud)
Death of the first born (first born ate infected meat, or a carbon monoxide bubble burst from nile caused by the red tide. First born slept on beds low to the ground while others in the house slept in hammocks suspended above. CO cloud suffocated everything 1ft off the ground)
Piller of fire (volcanic eruption by night)
Piller of smoke (volcanic eruption by day)
Parting of the sea (tsunami causes water to recede ahead of wave)
Sea returns to drown pharoah's army (tsunami reaches shore)
It all makes sense.
Red Tides, or Crimson Tides, are caused by algae blooms in oceans and rivers and can be devastating to plant and animal life. The red algae bloom is often triggered by an excess of nutrients in the body of water. The algae then reproduces rapidly, depleting the water of its oxygen. This causes amphibians to leap out (plague of frogs), fish kills (which attract flies), etc.
The idea of a red tide, a locust swarm, and a volcanic eruption coinciding seems unlikely, but plausible, especially if the locust swarm was triggered by the red tide.
Remember the plagues:
Nile turns red (red tide)
Frogs (forced out of water by red tide)
Nats (insects feasting on fish kill)
Sickness of the animals (animals infected by nats and drinking infected water)
Boils (nat bites get infected)
Fire and brimstone (volcanic eruption)
Locusts (stirred up by either the red tide or the fire and brimstone triggering swarm)
Darkness (volcanic ash cloud)
Death of the first born (first born ate infected meat, or a carbon monoxide bubble burst from nile caused by the red tide. First born slept on beds low to the ground while others in the house slept in hammocks suspended above. CO cloud suffocated everything 1ft off the ground)
Piller of fire (volcanic eruption by night)
Piller of smoke (volcanic eruption by day)
Parting of the sea (tsunami causes water to recede ahead of wave)
Sea returns to drown pharoah's army (tsunami reaches shore)
It all makes sense.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 8:13 pm
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Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:01 pm to ThinePreparedAni
Something that is lost on most people, we are living in probably one of the all-time great stretches of tranquility on Earth. That has given rise to what we see around us today. A return to the disasters from the recent past would plunge the world into chaos.
Maybe Trump is a time traveler? Maybe that is why he is so focused on actually building a wall? When the days of turmoil return Canada will probably greatly restrict air travel. So there isn't much of a threat from the north. However, an uncontrollable wave of refuges will surge out of S. America and north towards the US. It will take a fortified structure to secure the southern border.
The future is pretty bleak, the collapse of birthrates will continue to spread as more and more populations move out of poverty. The main goal of the globalist is to import a young population to account for crashing birthrates, so that armies can be raised in the near future. The next world war will be triggered by something like a comet strike, a massive volcanic eruption, or something on that scale.
This sounds far fetched and crazy but flip through the disasters of the known world. Now think if something like the topic of this thread happened today? Would our modernization save us? Or would our dependence on modern conveniences doom us?
Maybe Trump is a time traveler? Maybe that is why he is so focused on actually building a wall? When the days of turmoil return Canada will probably greatly restrict air travel. So there isn't much of a threat from the north. However, an uncontrollable wave of refuges will surge out of S. America and north towards the US. It will take a fortified structure to secure the southern border.
The future is pretty bleak, the collapse of birthrates will continue to spread as more and more populations move out of poverty. The main goal of the globalist is to import a young population to account for crashing birthrates, so that armies can be raised in the near future. The next world war will be triggered by something like a comet strike, a massive volcanic eruption, or something on that scale.
This sounds far fetched and crazy but flip through the disasters of the known world. Now think if something like the topic of this thread happened today? Would our modernization save us? Or would our dependence on modern conveniences doom us?
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 4/23/17 at 9:52 pm to rds dc
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Would our modernization save us? Or would our dependence on modern conveniences doom us?
I would imagine the least modern will survive. Which is why if there was an ancient civilization that was advanced no history of it was recorded. The recorders were doomed. The least modern carried on living.
This post was edited on 4/23/17 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:48 pm to lsu13lsu
Jewish tradition says that it took them 7 days to cross the Red Sea.
Posted on 4/23/17 at 10:55 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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mankind was in the ancient ancient past extremely advanced before natural calamities sent us back to the Stone Age
How in the world does that makes sense? So people survived but forgot languages and their own advancements? That makes zero sense.
quote:
Seems consistent with the theory that mankind was in the ancient ancient past extremely advanced
That is a hypothesis..not a theory.
Just no
Posted on 4/23/17 at 11:07 pm to ThinePreparedAni
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Ancient Stone Carvings Show a Comet Swarm Hitting Earth Around 10,950 BCE Around the time civilisation changed forever.
Graham Hancock is smiling.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 1:19 am to Ebbandflow
quote:For the record, I think ancient advanced civilizations like Atlantis is a neat, romantic fantasy, and not the reality of it.
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mankind was in the ancient ancient past extremely advanced before natural calamities sent us back to the Stone Age
How in the world does that makes sense? So people survived but forgot languages and their own advancements? That makes zero sense.
But, let's keep in mind, the Romans had running water, literacy and paved roads, something we didn't see again in Europe for centuries. Imagine, just for the sake of argument, that the Roman Empire had endured and prospered, and was still chugging along when Da Vinci came up with his ideas and theoretical inventions (in Italy, no less). We might have seen modern technologies arrive hundreds of years sooner; and thus we might be far more advanced than we currently are.
And this retardation of advancement was just due to social upheaval, not a cataclysm.
If something happens and the electricity goes out permanently tomorrow, I'm sure you will teach your kids to read. Can you teach them quantum physics? Would enough people even care about such things, when the more pressing issue is to get enough food and shelter to get through the winter? My guess is that a lot of knowledge would be lost forever; and yes, languages too, depending on what gets hit where.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 1:39 am to Scoob
I think geography and modern demographics makes ancient advanced civilizations plausible. 200 miles of coastal land was inundated at the end of theast ice age. Entire seas were created from river valleys and freshwater lakes including the Mediterranean Sea, Red Sea, Black Sea, English Channel, and Persian Gulf. Today, 80% of the world's population lives within 200 miles of the coast, primarily in river valleys. That means upwards of 80% of pre-history lies hidden under water. Notice that right after this flood, the first civilization appears in Sumer just north of the newly formed Persian Gulf. This civilization practically forms overnight with urban planning, kings, courts, complex legal systems, written language, armies, the works. Civilization didn't form at Sumer, it evacuated to Sumer. It just moved north when the lower river valley was inundated. If we look at the bottom of the Persian Gulf, we will surely find cities just like Sumer buried at the bottom of it under 6 thousand years of water, silt, and sand.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:25 am to John McClane
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I have to admit this is fascinating. Do the chevrons on all 3 continents (Africa, Asia, and Australia) match the angle from the epicenter? Looks like they would
That is a great question but I doubt they do or that would have been a main part of their argument.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:28 am to rds dc
quote:
Maybe Trump is a time traveler? Maybe that is why he is so focused on actually building a wall? When the days of turmoil return Canada will probably greatly restrict air travel. So there isn't much of a threat from the north. However, an uncontrollable wave of refuges will surge out of S. America and north towards the US. It will take a fortified structure to secure the southern border.
You need to check yourself into a mental hospital
Posted on 4/24/17 at 5:24 am to ThinePreparedAni
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Pink Floyd:
I didn't see that coming in this Thread.Interesting Posts from all.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:57 am to kingbob
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That means upwards of 80% of pre-history lies hidden under water.
Your estimate may be off as it assumes the population distribution was similar in ancient times. Regardless, your point remains that the portion of artifacts/remains from prehistory now lying underwater is significant.
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Civilization didn't form at Sumer, it evacuated to Sumer. It just moved north when the lower river valley was inundated.
I'd never considered that before. Intriguing post
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:43 pm to CrimsonTideMD
quote:It was most likely higher than 80%, if we're talking about any form of civilization. Water has been the most effective means of transporting goods of any size for most of our existence; things like grain etc.
quote:
That means upwards of 80% of pre-history lies hidden under water.
Your estimate may be off as it assumes the population distribution was similar in ancient times. Regardless, your point remains that the portion of artifacts/remains from prehistory now lying underwater is significant
Your option to bring goods in would have been to tote them on a wagon or pack animal (not very efficient), or float them down a waterway on a boat (a lot easier). Riding a river current would have been the easiest; and rivers flow outwards to the coast.
Makes very good geographic sense that a city would be downstream near the coast, as goods come their way efficiently. Trading posts would be upstream, especially once the city is established and you start networking.
quote:Sumer could quite well have been an outpost, feeding goods towards the main city.
quote:
Civilization didn't form at Sumer, it evacuated to Sumer. It just moved north when the lower river valley was inundated.
I'd never considered that before. Intriguing post
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:56 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:if the human population dipped into the thousands, yeah, that's very likely
How in the world does that makes sense? So people survived but forgot languages and their own advancements? That makes zero sense.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 12:57 pm to ThinePreparedAni
looks more like alien space craft rather than comets.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 1:00 pm to Machine
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if the human population dipped into the thousands, yeah, that's very likely
Exactly. Imagine being illiterate in this world. Now, imagine that all of the infrastructure of society is destroyed: electricity, the internet, schools, libraries, courts, cities, etc. Since you don't know the language, how can you pass it down to your children? Without schools and stores of knowledge, how can anything be preserved?
As was said prior, the most impacted people would be those near the coasts, which is where the vast majority of civilization would be. Those who survived would have been those living far beyond the outskirts. Today, if a similar event occurred, 80% or more of the world's population would die. That would have a profound effect on civilization going forward.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 1:31 pm to ThinePreparedAni
This is a fascinating thread. Thanks for the good reads everyone!
Posted on 4/24/17 at 2:19 pm to Ebbandflow
quote:
quote:
mankind was in the ancient ancient past extremely advanced before natural calamities sent us back to the Stone Age
How in the world does that makes sense? So people survived but forgot languages and their own advancements? That makes zero sense.
quote:
Seems consistent with the theory that mankind was in the ancient ancient past extremely advanced
That is a hypothesis..not a theory.
Just no
I don't necessarily buy into it, and I find some of the material to be a little too 9/11 Truther for my tastes, but I do think it's plausible.
We really don't know shite about the distant past. It's archaeologists and cultural anthropologists trying to piece together entire histories through what amount to dinner scraps.
The Roman example thrown out above is a good one: besides the infrastructure and education examples already noted, Julian the Apostate was fielding armies of size, complexity, and capability that wouldn't be seen again in Europe and the Near East for more than a millennium (and were arguably more capable than anything in the region until the introduction of gunpowder).
Assyria would be another. That part of the world was sent back into the ether after the sack of Nineveh, and it wouldn't reach anywhere close to similar civilization advancement for another 600 - 700 years.
There are long stretches of English history after 410 AD that we have to piece together from outside sources or scraps of charters and so forth because no one wrote anything down for a long, long time. The place wasn't anywhere remotely close to its Roman-era advancement until Alfred the Great came along.
It would require a global, cataclysmic event (like an asteroid), but I do tend to think our ancient ancestors were pretty damn clever people - much cleverer than most of us give them credit - and if we were ever able to go back in time, we'd probably be pretty amazed at what they could accomplish without electricity and the computer and the combustible engine and so forth.
This post was edited on 4/24/17 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:13 pm to AbuTheMonkey
quote:Oh yeah, I wasn't even going to bother addressing Rome's military capabilities, I was pointing out the advanced nature of their civilization compared to, what, the next 500+ years.
The Roman example thrown out above is a good one: besides the infrastructure and education examples already noted, Julian the Apostate was fielding armies of size, complexity, and capability that wouldn't be seen again in Europe and the Near East for more than a millennium (and were arguably more capable than anything in the region until the introduction of gunpowder).
And go look at what happened in the Americas. The Inca and Aztecs were far beyond what we've seen afterwards. These civilizations were at levels approaching the Greeks or so, and what followed literally WAS a return to Stone Age tech.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 4:16 pm to kingbob
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Exactly. Imagine being illiterate in this world. Now, imagine that all of the infrastructure of society is destroyed: electricity, the internet, schools, libraries, courts, cities, etc. Since you don't know the language, how can you pass it down to your children? Without schools and stores of knowledge, how can anything be preserved?
As was said prior, the most impacted people would be those near the coasts, which is where the vast majority of civilization would be. Those who survived would have been those living far beyond the outskirts. Today, if a similar event occurred, 80% or more of the world's population would die. That would have a profound effect on civilization going forward.
Joe Rogan has a great bit in one of his stand up specials.
"do you know how to make batteries? i don't fricking know how to make batteries!"
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